That New Phyrexia is called "Nueva Phyrexia" in Spanish

MillerCross

I had watched some videos and stuff, but I didn't understand much of the rules until I actually played the game.

Vivi

So I would be Juan's evil apprentice? Who he trains to kill the foes he couldn't?

MillerCross

Sorta. It'd be EDH and it'd be teamwork. --shrug--

Vivi

That actually sounds fun. Maybe you can be my teacher.

Noimporta

You people and your EDH.

MillerCross

AKA: Still can't build a Sliver deck, Noim?

Although regular can be played in teamwork as well. It just doesn't involve the board being cleaned so often. 

Noimporta

I have made a sliver deck, actually. It's just that EDH is so slow, 100 cards, no repeats, decks just don't flow as I'd want them to.

MillerCross

I have made a sliver deck, actually. It's just that EDH is so slow, 100 cards, no repeats, decks just don't flow as I'd want them to.

Yeah, admittedly it starts pretty slowly. One of the disadvantages of the format is that the first 3-5 turns are basic resource building. But the fact that you can use cards such as Tooth and Nail or insurrection, which are impractical in a 60 card game makes up for it, imo.

Vivi

So many terms that fly over my head...

Stormtroper

But Tooth and Nail decks were tier 1 during Darksteel (and I presume Fifth Dawn).

Why did I make this thread, now I want to play again for reals.

MillerCross

^^ Don't worry about EDH yet. It's just another format, and it honestly takes a while getting used to it. And half the fun is deckbuilding, so.

^ It still costs seven mana. If you get it too early, it will be just wasted space that could be used for a better card. If you get it too late...it will be too late, duh.

It depends largely on the timing of the card, to be honest.

IanExMachina

I tried the planeswalker trial to see what all the fuss was about.

However I found deckbuilding to be a dull, I'd rather all the cards randomly allocated and trying to work a strategy out what I was given, in other words I think Magic isn't for me.

Vivi

Well, deckbuilding and looking at all the monsters and spells was my favorite part of Yugioh so...

MillerCross

Yeah, if you don't like deckbuilding, 1/3 of the appeal of the game goes away, imo.

You can still use prebuilts, though. 

Vivi

I'm downloading DotP now.

Stormtroper

You can always copy others' decks (netdeck).

Vivi

Just found the Useful Notes TVT page for the game. That's helpful.

Bastion

However I found deckbuilding to be a dull, I'd rather all the cards randomly allocated and trying to work a strategy out what I was given, in other words I think Magic isn't for me.

You might be more interested in Limited formats, then. That's essentially what sealed-deck or booster-draft play is.

MillerCross

Oh, yeah, I heard about that.

Basically, everybody unpacks a couple of booster packs with a theme and play a game, correct?

Stormtroper

That's Sealed, you do it with a sealed deck and three booster (there's
no theme, except that the sealed deck/boosters usually come from the
same block), and there's deckbuilding involved.

There's also Booster-draft, where eight players sit on a table, each open a booster and choose one card from it, then passes the remaining cards to the next player until they've done so with three boosters, then there's
deckbuilding and playing.

There's also Rochester draft, which is a lot like Booster draft except one booster is opened at a time, the cards are always visible and the players take turns to pick their cards.

Bastion

More or less. In sealed deck, you get six boosters from a set and build a deck with that. In booster draft, everyone opens a pack, picks a card, passes the rest of the pack to the person to the left, takes the pack being passed to them from the right and picks a card from that, etc. Once all the cards have been picked, they open another pack and repeat the process, but passing to the right instead. Then they open one last pack and go back around again. 

After that, there's half an hour or so to build a deck from the cards you've picked (plus however many basic lands you want to add in). Then it's usually a double-elimination tourney (a series of one-on-ones; Limited decks don't work particularly well in multiplayer, I've found). 

It's an interesting exercise in making the most out of what you find, and of identifying the value of individual cards in a different context and resisting the temptation to just grab whatever shiny rare card gets passed to you.

glennmagusharvey

There are shiny rare cards in MtG?

IanExMachina

Isn't Charizard one? /troll

Stormtroper

There are rare(r) shiny (foil) versions of all cards (except the very old ones from before this existed), if that's what you mean.

glennmagusharvey

So they're "rare" only in the sense that they're a rare random cosmetic variant.

Stormtroper

Yes.

Gelzo

It's so awesome seeing new people show an interest in one of your hobbies. Shame none of my close friends or family are as interested in it as I am.

Stormtroper

Los (traductores de los) Hechiceros de la costa parecen insistir en que la nueva Nueva Phyrexia se llame «Nueva Phyrexia» pero que se llame «Pirexia» en todo lo demás.
Edit: Remember when this forum was active?