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Jump the Shark

The_EdgeThe_Edge
edited 2011-07-14 10:13:54 in General
Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

This will be my only new thread today, promise!

Moving on. You know that thing you like? In your opinion, when did it jump the shark?

My favorite band, Muse, jumped the shark when they starting appearing on Twilight Saga soundtracks.

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  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Because that totally affects their quality right?

    Because appearing in a movie is going to hae adverse effects on the quality, amirite?

    Fan Logic. It confounds me.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    Hence why I said IN YOUR OPINION! Frickin' read carefully. This is my opinion! Deal with it!
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    WMG: The_Edge is a sock puppet for Chagen.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    But did the music actually decrease in quality, or did the sole act of being in a bad movie somehow affect their quality?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-07-14 10:38:32
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Now, now, people, don't cause this thread to boil over either.  Us mods are sick and tired of scrubbing burned food residue off of the forum stove.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

    ^^HAHA! You know, The Conductor, I very well could be.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Chagen.

    Fuck it, the end of days is coming. 

    BRING IN THE SKY GOATSE!

  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    @that pic: wut

    I do agree with Chagen here though. Even if his delivery needs work.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    well screw it anyway. I don't care. I didn't make this thread to explain my own terrible reasons for not liking something someone did, but might as well. It's not the quality of the music suffered, it's that their image suffered. Personally, I think it makes them look like they sold out. I still like Muse a lot and I will still purchase their albums, but I hate they are now forever associated with Twilight. Oh the flipside, the Twitards probably buy their albums now.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Muse's appearance on the Twilight album might've been indicative of an attitude shift.

    Although I don't know what their attitude was beforehand. 
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Dude, I'd understand it if they had composed music for that movie, but all they did was allow someone else to use their music for a movie and follow the law.

    Thing is, that when it comes to shit like "Sold out", you have to wonder if isn't just the fans complaining about thir favorite thing not being so exclusive anymore.

    Anyway, you want a real "Jump the Shark" moment? Well then, just watch Season Six of Buffy. You'll get plenty of those there. 
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-14 10:40:02
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I liked season 6 of Buffy. :<

    Well, apart from the way the magic addiction was handled. But other than that.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    There're a lot of Jumping the Shark moments there, in my opinion.

    Ahem...

    * Spike raping Buffy.
    * Buffy's whole ressurection arc.
    * Tara's death. (Really? JFK's death makes much more sense)
    * Xander running away from Anya.
    * Dawn's characterization. I think the show would have fared a lot better if they had killed her in season five. She's just a nuisance and a distraction at best.
    * Giles constant leaving just to make it angstier and harder for the characters to grow up, even though supposedly, the theme of this season in particular is reaching mature-ness.

    Etc, etc, etc, etc.

    Thing is, that it's not a horrible. It is beautifully written and some of this stuff might work for ya, but it does fullfill the definition of Jump the Shark. 
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Honestly, I can't stand Buffy. 

    Or Angel.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I could murder you. Mostly because Angel had the greatest swordfights on TV.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.

    The whole "WILLOW IS SUPER LESBIAN NOW SHE WAS JUST CONFUSED WHEN SHE WAS IN LOVE WITH XANDER AND OZ, LOL" thing pissed me off. 

    Buffy's resurrection. Oh, and her death, too. Glory just wasn't scary for me, nor were her hobbit minions. 

    Spike. Everything about him. He started off being a badass vampire, but then he got turned into a big fluffy puppy with bad teeth and a shortage of that nancy-boy hairgel he loved so much. I heard it was because one of the writers wanted to make Spike like one of her ex-boyfriends, which would explain his general lack of balls.

    A dearth of Giles and Xander. They were easily the best characters on the show. 

    The entire sixth season, except for the musical episode.

  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.

    Angel was way better than Buffy. It was the tragic yet awesome tale of Vampire Batman in Los Angeles as he fought demonic lawyers and traveled through space and time. That's an objectively awesome premise. 

    My only complaint was the twist at the middle of the fourth season, and everything having to do with Connor. I hated the little bugger, although Keith Szarabajka made it somewhat bearable. I think Holtz was easily one of the best villains in TV.

  • AHRAHR
    --starts reading---

    --reads Xander running away from Anya--

    GAAAH WHY DID I READ THAT BAD AHR BAD AHR BAD AAAHHHRRRR
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    @Juan
    The Spike - Buffy attempted rape thing actually kind of made sense for me. They'd been having epic hate sex for months, where no pretty much always means yes. It's not hard to see something like that happening eventually. Even if I didn't like it, it made sense to me.

    I liked the ressurection arc. It kind of fit with the whole dead is dead, and it should stay that way theme.

    Re: Tara: Josses gonna Joss, etc. I think it would have been better if she'd been outside with Buffy/Xander/Warren. Getting randomly hit by that bullet was shocking, but... it didn't make the most sense.

    Xander running away was another thing that, while I didn't like it per se, it made sense with his character and didn't come out of nowhere. It was kind of implied for a while that he wasn't sure about this whole marriage thing. He has a father who's a drunk and hates his wife, so he was probably terrified he'd end up that way with Anya too, and the demon just made it worse.

    Dawn really annoyed me, and while her behavior did make sense, she didn't do much other than whine.

    Agreed on Giles. I think he should have just left after Once More With Feeling, without all the wishy-washy leaving and coming back.

    @Hatter
    "The whole "WILLOW IS SUPER LESBIAN NOW SHE WAS JUST CONFUSED WHEN SHE WAS IN LOVE WITH XANDER AND OZ, LOL" thing pissed me off. "

    I don't remember it being handled like that... and some people do realize that they like girls more after multiple male partners. I've seen it.

    Glory wasn't scary, but I wouldn't say that any of the Buffy big bads were. She is my favorite though.

    /epic irrelevent post
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Aawwwww, I'm sorry, AHR. 

    Didn't mean to spoil you. I thought you'd get the fuck away from that list the moment I started. >_>
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    edited 2011-07-14 11:05:46
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Mostly because Angel had the greatest swordfights on TV.

    Alright, I'm gonna head off to YouTube and check this out. If you're right, you're right.

    If you're wrong, I'm gonna have a lot of fun! :D

    EDIT: Aaaaand there's nothin'. How anticlimactic! 
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    God fucking dammit people, some people haven't watched Buffy.
  • AHRAHR
    Juan: You'd think that, but I'm an idiot. I have no one to blame but myself, and I understand that.

    I had stupidly assumed there was nothing left to spoil.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-14 11:07:16
    You can change. You can.
    Besides, Angel gave us thiss.





    ^^ Yes, but it was brought up. You can easily ignore the thread if you're not interested in it. And if you don't want to be spoiled, I gave you plenty of time to just press back before reading the list.

    ^ I did that a lot during my run on it, lol.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Okay, Juan.

    That is pretty awesome. xD
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Muse is on Twilight because Stephanie listened to use while writing Twilight and New Moon. It says so in the author credits. She also asked them to make songs for the TST, and they happily obliged.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    Alright already, I am wrong! It's just me being fandumb!
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    ^^Wait, they did make songs for OST? I thought they just used Supermassive Black Hole.

    ^Dude, you're not exactly wrong for thinking that a band making music for the money is wrong. Well, you are, in my opinion. But you can't expect us to stop commenting on it.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Yup, Neutron Star Collision, SMBH, and the New Moon Remix of I Belong To You.
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-07-14 12:20:02
    000
    My favorite band, Muse, jumped the shark when they starting appearing on Twilight Saga soundtracks.

    "Uprising" did it for me. "We, a vague, undefined group of revolutionaries must fight this vague, undefined group of evil people for vague, undefined reasons!" The lyrics make it sound like it's designed from the ground up to sell records.

    Look at the comments on its music video. One guy thinks its about Jews. Another thinks its about the "NWO". The Federal Reserve, God, the welfare state, "INDEPENDENT LIBER sovereign"...
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