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There aren't any known species matching the intelligence of humans

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  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Apparently ducks are notorious rapists.
  • edited 2011-07-11 05:00:16
    Belief
    ^^ I agree, so I'm not linking to the video with the singing duck.

    So there :]
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-07-11 05:00:37
    ^^As are dolphins, the sick, twisted little motherfuckers.

    ^DO IT YOU LITTLE FUCKER, I WILL CUT YOU
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    "How the heck are you defining fully developed languages"

    Ornithologists have been able to identify dialects. Dialects require the existence of language.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > One Carrion Crow
    was documented to crack nuts by placing them on a crosswalk, letting
    the passing cars crack the shell, waiting for the light to turn red, and
    then safely retrieving the contents.

    > Members of the corvid family have been known to watch other birds,
    remember where they hide their food, then return once the owner leaves. Corvids also move their food around between hiding places to avoid
    thievery, but only if they have previously been thieves themselves i.e.,
    they remember previous relevant social contexts, use their own
    experience of having been a thief to predict the behavior of a pilferer,
    and can determine the safest course to protect their caches from being
    pilfered.

    Holy shit.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Dude, I want a carrion crow to be my wizard's familiar.
  • edited 2011-07-11 11:25:38
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Ducks = rapists.

    Some female ducks and geese have evolved complex genitalia to thwart unwelcome mating attempts, according to a new study.

    Males of some species, such as mallard, have a notorious habit of "raping" females. They and other wildfowl are among the 3% of bird species whose males have phalluses big enough to insert into the vaginas of females, whether or not the female consents.

    Now, in the most detailed analysis yet of duck and goose vaginas, researchers have established that females of these species have evolved vaginal features to thwart unwelcome males

    Tim Birkhead at the University of Sheffield in the UK and colleagues examined vaginas and the corresponding phalluses from 16 wildfowl species. They discovered that the longer and more elaborate the male member, the longer and more elaborate its female recipient was.

    Some vaginas had spiral channels that would impede sex by twisting in the opposite direction to that of the male phallus. Others had as many as eight cul-de-sac pouches en route, that could prevent fertilisation by capturing unwelcome sperm. Moreover, these features were only found in species renowned for forced sex. All other species had simple male and female genitalia.

    "These structures are wonderfully devious, sending sperm down the wrong road or impeding penetration," says Birkhead.

    He says that the features demonstrate an evolutionary "arms race" in which control over reproduction alternates between the sexes. If the male develops a longer, more elaborate phallus to force copulation, females wrest back control by developing features to thwart males who rape.

    "It shows that females are not passive in averting exploitation by males with large phalluses," says Birkhead.

  • Don't male ducks also rape the corpses of other ducks?
  • edited 2011-07-11 14:46:27
    No rainbow star
    Gelzo: They apparently can pass on perfect renditions of a face of someone who attacked them to their children through nothing but speech. I'd say that's oral history
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^^
    There is an infamous study of gay duck necrophilia about.
  • "Ornithologists have been able to identify dialects. Dialects require the existence of language."

    That seems sorta circular. Besides, I think they might have been using "dialect" as a term for regional differences between bird songs, which I've known about before this thread and doesn't necessarily mean they have a "fully developed language".

    "They apparently can pass on perfect renditions of a face of someone who attacked them to their children through nothing but speech. I'd say that's oral history"

    What? Where are you guys getting this? Did I miss a link?
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^
    Hmm I'd say that might be extrapolated by one of my earlier links however it was never claimed by me to be oral history passing it on just social learning.
  • No rainbow star
    ^ Well, I thought it was oral history when they pass on renditions that well. Is my definition wrong?
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Well they could pass it on by copying behaviour rather than language?
  • It seems more likely that they'd learn from observing their parent's reactions to that person/people in general unless they specifically mentioned taking steps to prevent that.
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