People who bitch about heroes getting new villains.

Malkavian

This is something I sometimes see with Batman and Spider-man fans, whining whenever a new character comes around, sometimes with the intention of making them recurring villains.

I suppose they want nothing but a stagnant recursion of The Joker/Riddler/Penguin all the time and to never provide new stimuli for characters to respond to?

MadassAlex

I get what you're saying, but in general terms I think having less major villains is better for character development reasons.

Malkavian

I can see that, but with rare exceptions (like Raz'z Al Ghul) new villains are rarely initially major ones. They generally evolve into them.

There's a reason we won't see Spider-man squaring off The Spot again any time soon but Hobgoblin still shows up.

MillerCross

Most of the time new villains are unoriginal expies, though.

Malkavian

Then don't complain about them being new, complain about them being bad characters.

And even then, unoriginal expies can evolve into genuine characters. Deadpool started as the world's most poorly-hidden Deathstroke ripoff.

TheConductor

I think with the expies thing it's more a case of "Why do we need this new, Clownman, the Joker was just coo". But Mr. Negative from Spider-Man seems to be popular.

Myrmidon

"Mr. Negative"