I has Team Fortress 2 Now.

DonZabu

I just go in as a Pyro and suicide-torch the place.

glennmagusharvey

^ That's what I usually end up doing.

I think that one problem is that so far, i've been playing everything except pyro's flamethrower as a ranged weapon.

Apparently, shotgun and scattergun can do massive damage...but only up close.

Vorpy

Yes, I raked up 131 kills with my Shotgun and 79 with my Pistol as a Mobile Engineer. Rather than hiding behind my Sentry, I find people and kill them, and then retreat to my nest when I am low on ammo and health. So there's a demo flinging grenades and getting shot, I shoot away his stickies and then blast him to death with my shotgun while he's reloading.

Same with Pyro, which I use my shotgun with (which is strangely more effective against Demoknights than the Flamethrowers due to the fire resistance).

glennmagusharvey

Being fast enough to shoot stickies implies that you're decent with aiming.

ninjaclown

Widowmaker is tricky, there is no reload and metal runs out fast with 200 max and 60 per shot.

glennmagusharvey

What is Widowmaker?

ninjaclown

The new Engineer shotgun, shoots metal instead of ammo.

ninjaclown

I now have all the new ones except for the Short Circuit, I would let you "borrow" the Widowmaker Glenn but as you know with f2p it's a one way street. Hope you understand.

Myrmidon

I doubt that the Widomaker will catch on. It takes away the ability to yell that you totally no-scoped someone.

ColorPrinter

^ Machina, not Widowmaker

Myrmidon

Oh, yeah.

Oooh, the Diamondback looks nice.

glennmagusharvey

@ninjaclown: no worries.  I'll eventually get enough crap and craft it myself if it doesn't randomly drop before then and i actually want it.

glennmagusharvey

I want to scrap my KGB.  Is that a good idea?

Crimson

I doubt the actual Widowmaker will catch on either. You have to be pretty close to an enemy and get a good shot in before it's worth its steep metal cost.

Blueeyedrat

Is it an achievement item? If so, then don't do it. I obtained all 27 milestones while F2P, and somehow found the space to hold onto them until I upgraded.

Forzare

I predict that the metal cost is going to go down in a patch or two.

ninjaclown

KGB is indeed an achievement item, and I do not regret scrapping all six of mine for a reclaimed. That was a good day, that'll teach you to "randomly" drop six KGB on me, drop system.

Blueeyedrat

I know it's an achievement item, I'm just asking if the one Glenn wants to scrap is, or if it's a random drop.

glennmagusharvey

It's a random drop.

I have almost NEVER used melee for my Heavy so it's pretty useless for me.  And if I do it's probably going to involve my Heavy cowering next to the payload while wearing the fists of steel.

Vorpy

The Widowmaker is actually VERY VERY good once you get your buildings set up.

Sure the 60 metal is heavy cost, but when you are next to a dispenser, you can shoot people, get the metal back and so forth. a nice two-engie nest is almost like free shots forever when you have dispensers backing you.

60 initial is a bit much, but point blanking a Spy is almost like not losing metal at all. Not only that, picking up guns and everything else adds more ammo, so if you kill them with your Widow you can pick up their gun and get more metal, and your Sentry fries people so you can pick up the guns of the dead and continue blasting people in the face.

Vorpy

Craft it into a Gloves of Running, where it allows the Heavy to run faster at the cost of 3 HP a second I think.

ninjaclown

Vorpy, is there anything you want for a gunslinger?

ninjaclown

Welp, I finally crafted the short circuit, at the cost of having absolutely no metal left.

Blueeyedrat

Got an Original off random drop. Sweet.

Myrmidon

Something I learned: It's better to sap and run than wait around to make sure you succeed.

RocketDude

Yeah, sticking around is a bad idea, since everyone nearby will try to aid the Engie by attempting to kill the Spy.

Vorpy

Something I learned: If an Engie is alone, get the Sentry between him and you, and sap the shit out of it.

That, or you know....team up with another spy. One to sap the Engineer's Sentry, and the other to backstab/shoot him while he's trying to break the sapper.

ninjaclown

Not sure where Neo is, so I'm saying this twice. I have a reclaimed metal I will trade for your exquisite rack.

Vorpy

I have a reclaimed metal I will trade for your exquisite rack.

I have a HARD BONER and I will trade for your AWESOME BOOBS

ninjaclown

Deer antlers.