"Rape is worse than death!"

Bob

Why do idiots keep assuming I want to slash my wrists? :<

AHR

Vivi: Only because you can't comprehend it. Even people who have fully accepted the idea don't really have the ability to perceive the nonexistence of themselves.

So either start believing in a religion that will take you somewhere else, or stop thinking about it. I usually deal with the concept of nonexistence as a really long nap. You might find a more soothing association.

Vivi

If it was really true that people with a strong enough will could be ghosts, that would make me happy.

^I totally comprehend it. Doesn't mean I like it at all. Whatevs.

IanExMachina

@Hatter ;

Regarding the Infliction of pain/denial of please part you posted before:

Mental trauma from rape could lead to prolonged denial of pleasure (or certain pleasures).

Nyktos

I still stand by what I said the last time this issue came up: If one rape victim, ever, has managed to live a fulfilling and happy life after the rape, then murder is a worse crime than rape.

IanExMachina

Well I didn't actually want to post anything, that was strange.

Forzare

^^

Nova

Others can get permanently messed up in the head very badly by it, especially if it happens more than once.

Ehehe.. hehe...

It's true. Rape can... fuck a victim over, to make a crude pun. It's not always something you just... 'get over', even with th support of a network of friends and family- which not everyone will have.

More objectively- I'm not going to claim rape is one of them, but there are things worse than death out there.

IanExMachina

^ There is also always the professional support network.

Beholderess

This is one of those things I wouldn't begrudge someone's opinion either
way (so long as they're not like, running around trying to mercy kill
rape victims, because seriously).  Some people are resilient enough to
recover from rape and move on.  Others can get permanently messed up in
the head very badly by it, especially if it happens more than once.

No, dying after rape makes no sense for this one. If rape has already happened, this one would rather survive.
But dying instead of being raped would be preferable for this one, yes.

Hmm, how to explain...Suppose there is a graph indicating an overall happiness of one's life. When one dies, said graph simply ends at whatever point it reached. Suffering, including rape, makes the graph drop lower, and sharply.

Suppose this one currently has a happiness of 57. Dying right now would not change this number - it is still 57, only continued no longer. Being raped would immediately drop it to 5. Getting killed after that would get one dead with a happiness of 5. Surviving might have the number slowly increase, but it would probably take years since in reaches the original number. For all this time, this one would be in the worse state than what she'd be in if she died before being raped, but in better state than if she died immediately after that.

Vorpy

Death only happens once. Rape can happen as many times as you are alive.

SotiCoto

You saying some folks don't find it blatantly obvious that rape is worse than death?  Of course it is!
But then stale bread is worse than death too.
And how would that be?
Because death is unvalued. Neutral.
Life is 87.5% negative on average.
If you're gonna graph it then keep into account that the line is always gonna be dropping if left alone, will spike massively downwards if anything bad happens, and blip upwards just a little when good things happen....  BUT irrespective, it always defaults back to 0 upon death... whether it was at -5 or -5000. And honestly, only those who are perpetually high on drugs are going to spend any significant time in the positives.