Celebration of "manliness"

AHR

Be it straight or tongue in cheek.

 

I don't fucking get it. I didn't get it when One Piece did it, and I don't get it when actual people do it either.

 

It's pathetic, and I am so sick and tired of this mentality. It's like it just popped up one day and refuses to leave. I can't fucking stand people who act all heartsy and girly and frikkin ditzy, so why do you think acting like gung ho pinheads would be any better?

 

If you want to act like idiots, fine, be that way, but at least let it open to both genders.

 

Grargle. Grargle flargle.

Bradamante

Interesting sociological theory is that masculinity/femininity is a continuum, and that the healthiest type of person is an androgynous person. Me, I say it takes all sorts. The traditionally manly, the traditionally feminine, and people in between.

Gelzo

AHR

I am, actually. Thank you for noticing.

DonZabu

Use this, AHR:

Crimson

This is because of the straight male topic on YF isn't it?


Naaaaaaahhh...

AHR

Don: No. No thank you.

 

Neo: Yes. Yes it is.

Bradamante

There are things to celebrate about masculinity. Srsly, being able to bench press more than you weigh while rotating a 3D object in your mind is a freaking superpower.

Femininity should be celebrated, too. We can multitask better on average and communicate better on average, for instance.

Both genders should be celebrated for the unique gifts they bring, as should all individuals, masculine, feminine, or in-between, male, female, or other.

Forzare

I think this might be one of those times where you need to take a deep breath, take a step back, and not take it so seriously.

AHR

Ehhhhhhh. It's genderwank. The day I stop taking genderwank seriously is not going to be a happy day for me.

It's usually something I enjoy.

Now if only there was a lack of segregation between gender roles, and what they are allowed to celebrate and participate in.

Crimson

Neo: Yes. Yes it is.

Oh your just jealous of our fleet of starcruisers. :P

Also quoting, how does it work?

AHR

Nope. Just discovering a burning hatred in certain people, culminating in an intense dislike in those who associate with the philosophy and morals that I abhor.

Chagen

Oh no.

Please don't tell me your a feminazi, AHR. I respect you, but if I hear another radical feminist argument, I swear I'm gonna crack.

Feminism--drives men to misogyny faster than anything else.

AHR

Not a feminazi. Just a hatred of being excluded from something because of my gender.

 

Or being forcibly included.

RedEyedAbyss

"Now if only there was a lack of segregation between gender roles, and what they are allowed to celebrate and participate in."

Definitely. I'd rather be considered a person than a sex.

Aside, what annoys me more than extreme gender posturing is when it's coming from the opposite sex. Not camp, though. Large Ham camp is gender-neutral.

Gelzo

Go away Chagen, you aren't helping.

Yes, this is coming from the guy that defaulted to a U MAD reaction image.

Chagen

Gelzo: Sorry, but more than a few feminist "arguments" are completely bullshit and are more focused on making women above, rather than creating equality.

Most of feminism is logical and based in fact, but you never hear about the sane ones.

AHR

Which is why, Chagen, I mentioned I dislike "people who act all heartsy and girly and frikkin ditzy, so why do you think acting like gung ho pinheads would be any better?"

RedEyedAbyss

Don't make me get out the Final Fantasy X in 5 seconds video.

glennmagusharvey

> I'd rather be considered a person than a sex.

THIS.

SO FUCKING VERY THIS.

> Oh no.  Please don't tell me your a feminazi, AHR. I respect you,
but if I hear another radical feminist argument, I swear I'm gonna
crack.  Feminism--drives men to misogyny faster than anything else.

Or you can be patient and see if that's the case.

> Most of feminism is logical and based in fact, but you never hear about the sane ones.

Because, like most other sane people, they're boring.

glennmagusharvey

Also, can someone linked to said thread please?

RedEyedAbyss

Actually, I find sane feminism arguments intriguing. Mostly because they cause you to see things in different ways. Doctor Who, for example.

AHR

Someone made this thread: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13058430470A19493600&page=1

 

So, as a counterpart, some one made this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13058525400A82299200&page=1

 

I am aware I am probably over reacting, but it's a straw camel thing.

Crimson

Here ya go.

It's mostly just dicking around (tee hee) as you can see.

glennmagusharvey

Oh.  Sexuality-based tribal allegiance threads.

snowbull

I love tribalism!

MillerCross

Actually, there has been some whining (I'll admit I was one of those) about how straight tropers where few and etc.

Personally, I would have preferred it if the thread was just for straight people. But I like to boast and have fun with that. I don't think I'm a better person because I'm male or whatever, I just like being me and I like being boisterous and cheesy and all that shit. 

If you don't like that, it's OK, but I don't see why do you have to criticize me if I am not affecting you or attacking you. Nor any of the people behind that thread.

Khwarizmi

Meh.  That thread seems harmless to me.  If it were a little more serious then maybe it'd be irritating, but it's not like they're whining about being underrepresented.  Last I checked, they're assigning eachother starships.

>Both genders should be celebrated for the unique gifts they bring

This kind of talk, on the other hand, annoys me a lot.  Pretty sure I couldn't bench press more than I weigh while mentally rotating a 3D object in my head.  It's not some kind of special superpower that you automatically get by virtue of being an adult male, it's something you have to work for.

Respect to those who can, but it's not a man thing, it's a hard work thing.  Having a male body just helps a lot.

AHR

JC: Well, I didn't actually criticize anyone. Just the act.

 

Second of all, I'm fine with people acting boisterous.

 

No, really, I love it. It's when they parade it around as something "manly" (even in a joking tone) that riles me up. Sure, the "man up" thread had it for a while, but it was more or less accepted to be general advice, and for general genders. This thread? Not so much. And that's what tipped it from a mild annoyance amongs other mild annoyances, to something to rant about.

 

Because when you exclude people, I plan on criticizing.

Khwarizmi

Then why aren't you complaining about the bisexuals thread, or the gay thread, or the numerous "X only" threads we've had in the past?

Or, hell, just threads relating to specific interests are by nature exclusionary.

Forzare

"Because when you exclude people, I plan on criticizing."

Then why does this thread specifically bother you so much, and not, like, the Gay tropers, ASSEMBLE thread or the Bisexual tropers, how many of us are there? thread?

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