"Heavily tax the rich, that'll solve everything".

Chagen

Why? Those people earned that money. They don't deserve to have the governement take it away from them. This is always suggested by middle-class people who are pissed that others actually worked and gained wealth through business. Shut the fuck up, maybe you should have payed attention in school you lazy piece of shit.

DYRE

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Vorpy

lolParisHilton

Chagen

Life isn't fair and some people have it better than others.

Deal with it, instead of trying to make a socialiast utopia.

Trash_Vortex

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Trash_Vortex

You really are full of shit, you know that?

All Nines

Vorpy

WARNING    -  CUIDADO
Before taking anything Chagen says seriously, please note that he has no fucking idea what he is talking about....again...so don't invest too much into this thread. Tread lightly.

Chagen

So this is why reading OTC is a bad idea.

DonZabu

Just give everybody one flat tax.

Tnu1138

A little antagonistic but Chagen speeks the truth not just the principle of it but hte reality iof it. whe n yu impolament a progressive tax it only harms the poor by jackign up prices to compensate. It is also a slippery slope implying that we don't have a right to our own money. It also violates the Constitution.

Article 1 Section 8
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and
collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and
provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United
States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform
throughout the United States;

Vorpy

This is why reading shit before you post is a good idea.

Trash_Vortex

The idea of heavily taxing the rich being a bad idea wasn't what I was going against, I think it's a bad idea, but it was more just the fact it was Chagen

DonZabu

^^^ You could interpret it that way. Or you could interpret it as "don't give one part of the US a flat tax and then give another part of the US a progressive tax".

GLORIOUSLeader

There's a reason we're massively in debt, you know. Hint: it rhymes with "Reagan lifted many tax impositions on the schmich." 

And also other things (hello Cold War), but the tax cuts are a big part of it.  

snowbull

So if I inherit my rich uncle's billion dollar fortune, I earned that money simply by virtue of being born? Awesome.

Also, the world is unfair and some people have it better than others. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try and change it. Don't assume an ought from an is.

Chagen

"Also, the world is unfair and some people have it better than others. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try and change it."

Except that when equality is forced, we get stuff like the Soviet Union. Who only had to kill 70 Million people to prove how communism didn't work.

DonZabu

>There's a reason we're massively in debt, you know. Hint: it rhymes with "Reagan lifted many tax impositions on the schmich."

I thought it was because we owed a bunch of money to Japan and China.

>So if I inherit my rich uncle's billion dollar fortune, I earned that money simply by virtue of being born? Awesome.

That's what the estate tax is for.

(Who am I kidding, I don't know anything about economics.)

ninjaclown

People who want tax breaks for the rich believe in Reagan-style economics, or Trickle Down Economics.

HINT: IT DOESN'T WORK.

Chagen

Because the opposite, communism, totally works, amirite?

GLORIOUSLeader

I thought it was because we owed a bunch of money to Japan and China.

Which is why investing in hentai and totalitarianism never works out.

/stereotypes

/tellthattoKimJongIl

ninjaclown

Keep the taxing the rich, you don't honestly believe they'll help out the economy out of their own good will, do you?

CommandoDude

Chagen. Do you REALIZE that 2% of this country owns about 40% of the wealth in it? And that 10% including that 2% cumulatively owns 80% of the wealth?

Do you REALIZE that the average salary of a middle class worker hasn't improved in decades. While CEO pay has broken record after record, even during the recession.

The middle class is DYING thanks to republican policies.

By the way. Strawmanning gets you nowhere.

Iaculus

^^^^ Shouldn't you know not to use false dichotomies by now, Chagen?

ninjaclown

The average CEO's salary reached record heights...DURING THE RECESSION. If you can't understand what's wrong with that, you don't understand basic math, let alone economics.

CommandoDude

The divide in America between the middle class/poor and the rich is as bad as most third world countries. Uganda has better wealth distribution then us. The only reason WE'RE not a third world country right now, is because America is cumulatively, incredibly wealthy as a nation.

Tnu1138

Not out of good will maybe but certainly out of self-interest it's rational youw ant to buy thing syou want to actually do somethign with tht money instead of just hoarding it and when you buy things you get that money flowing. I say let the money flow.

Chagen

Commando: Life sucks and isn't fair.

Deal with it. The world isn't a socialist utopia where everyond holds hands and is the same. There will always be economic inequality.

ninjaclown

That's not how it works.

Tnu1138

and it works by holdign guns to everyone and FORCIGN them to share?

GLORIOUSLeader

They don't do that.