Writing Porn.

Chagen

You can't help but have this nagging feeling that you should be wasting your life on something vastly more important.

DYRE

Yeah, like porn in any other format.

Chagen

But....how else shall we fap?

TheConductor

By not being a little fucking creep and finding a partner?

Chagen

Difficult and requires commitment.

Do note that I'm not actually writing porn right now.

nohaynicklibre

>Porn
>Writing

Chagen

Sturgeon's Law, people.

Not that I'm proud of my erotica skills either. Why do so many people think erotic writing is doomed to failure anyway?

Komodin

Sturgeon's Law.

MillerCross

Because erotica writing is outdated? Shit, thhe moment we started drawing it was outdated. The only reason there was a market was because there was a time where such things were valued. But the moment we came up with more visual ways to convey fap material, we simply became turned off by written erotica.

Of course, there are some purists out there who think that written erotica represents the highbrow, intellectual aspect of it (Which it kinda is, but let's not go there) as reading = cultural in many peoples's eyes

Think of it as going back to a Super Nintendo after playing with a PS3. One represents a golden age that many people wish it wasn't over where florid descriptions were the norm and the other represents modern...boobs.

Chagen

"Because erotica writing is outdated? Shit, thhe moment we started drawing it was outdated. The only reason there was a market was because there was a time where such things were valued. But the moment we came up with more visual ways to convey fap material, we simply became turned off by written erotica."

Well, there are those who can't draw and would like to write erotica.

"Of course, there are some purists out there who think that written erotica represents the highbrow, intellectual aspect of it"

I can see where this is coming from. Due to having no fancy visuals or anything else, writing rests solely on the words to be good. A movie, for example, can have a bad plot uplifted by special effects or great acting. Literature only has its words.

That doesn't stop bad writers, though....

I would never place a sex scene in a normal, work, though. I'd use the Sexy Discretion Shot, which has more of an impact, to me at least.

MillerCross

Well, there are those who can't draw and would like to write erotica.

Notice that I never referred to the creators. You asked why do people think that written erotica is doomed to fail. It's a simple thing, it's not satisfactory. Sexual fantasies are better when they estimulate more than just your imagination. Like your aesthetical preferences. Which is why we use more visual media. 

I can see where this is coming from. Due to having no fancy visuals or anything else, writing rests solely on the words to be good. A movie, for example, can have a bad plot uplifted by special effects or great acting. Literature only has its words.

Bleh, having studied film in the 4 months has taught me that making a move that is somehow "uplifted by special effects or great acting" without a good plot is practically impossible. At most, they are saving graces. Like little pieces of gold swimming on the dirty river. But otherwise, movies work on synergy. Everything and everyone has to be at the top of their game...otherwise, it won't work. At all.

Iaculus

I think that's an overstatement, Juan. Written erotica is still alive and well on the net and elsewhere, both because it allows for more imaginative scope on the part of the reader and because it can delve deeper into the feelings and sensations experienced by the involved partners. Which, admittedly, not everyone is interested in, but that doesn't stop a market from existing at all.

I'd advise that you don't assume your personal preferences represent overarching trends.

Vorpy

Literotica exists, so yeah. Writing is far more easier than drawing, animating or acting, so generally it's the "tadpole media" for creating porn since it's easy to get good at.

MillerCross

Iaculus: I admit there's a bias there, yes and I know people who like written erotica. And I know there's a lot of them. But, again, as I said, he asked why do most people think that written erotica is bad, and I explained why. I don't assume that everyone shares that opinion, to be honest. That would be foolish.

I do admit that there's really bad phrasing there and it seems like I talked about everyone when I just spoke for myself as one of those people Chagen asked about.

So...sorry about that.

Chagen

Vorpy: I disagree. Writing can be punishingly difficult because you have only the words to depend on keeping your reader interested.

A scenery panel which take 20 minutes to draw in a comic could take a page to detail in prose. A 10-second action scene in a movie could take pages to describe in prose. Writing is very difficult.

MillerCross

 A 10-second action scene in a movie could take pages to describe in prose.

Laconism is not as easy as you think it is. Especially on a movie script where you have to count everything.

Iaculus

^^^ No big, chiefy.

AXavierB

I've written porn about two of my friends just to bug them.

Bradamante

People create games and toys (not necessarily sexual), because they fill a human need for emotional fulfillment, and they give an opportunity for creativity.

Writing porn is the same. It fills a human need (sexual fulfillment), and allows you to be even more creative, perhaps, than a nonsexual story would be, because you are allowed to violate any and all taboos in porn, which you wouldn't be able to violate in a nonsexual story.

Trash_Vortex

I think we're drawing the line too clearly between the two. I've seen (and even write) stories that break similar taboos, but I wouldn't say it was porn.

inkblot

The same arguements against written erotica can be used against writing in general.

snowbull

I prefer written porn because it occasionally has emotional intimacy. If I wanted to see chunks of meat sloshing about inside each other and leaking fluids around I could look up videos of intestinal surgery.

Forzare

" If I wanted to see chunks of meat sloshing about inside each other and leaking fluids around I could look up videos intestinal surgery."

STOP RUINING PORN FOR ME

IanExMachina

STOP RUINING INTESTINAL SURGERY FOR ME

Forzare

EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER

-an hero's-

DonZabu

I still don't get why nearly every troper hates video porn. You'd think the sampling size would be too large and broad for such a universality to exist.

GLORIOUSLeader

90% of it is crap. And 10% of that is scat. 

IanExMachina

What makes video porn worse is when they focus on the guy doing the fucking's face, as it just looks like terrible acting/monumentally idiotic.

DonZabu

Sometimes I wonder if the porn I'm seeing is the same porn you guys are seeing.

CaptainFargle

@DonZabu: Unless you're into homosexual mind-control you're definitely not seeing the same porn that I'm seeing.