Having to cite everything for papers.

Chagen

I know why it's important (showing that you don't intend to pass off other's work as your own, and making sure someone else can check to see if your sources do promote what you're saying), but that doesn't stop it from being annoying.

Not to mention that the time period I'm searching up right now doesn't seem to have much in the way of research material available for it. And my teacher is making us use only sources from the internet for some fucked up reason.

It's even more aggravating using Wikipedia to find valuable sources (i.e, I look on Wikipedia's article for the subject and then find sources from that--I don't use the article itself as a source) and not seeing anything I can use. God dammit, I'd be done with this project over a week ago, if this wasn't so. damn. AGGRAVATING. I know everything I need to put in (I could write the damn paper now and it'd probably be a B at least), but now I have to troll the internet for valid sources. God fucking dammit.

TuefelHundenIV

Chagen; Just wait til you have to write a major college history paper with original research.

Chagen

What would be the difference between normal and original research?

Nova

You have to gather the research for yourself with original stuff. Surveys, etc. You need to make your own primay sources.

Chagen

Sounds mildly interesting.

Or, it would be if I wasn't a lazy ass who would never actually do that.

TuefelHundenIV

And then you have to have it checked by someone else who agrees with you that is useful before citing it and also produce copies of the material on demand...it gets very tedious very quickly.

Chagen

That's....a ridiculous amount of work. For one paper that you weren't even paid to do.

Hell, you paid to do it.

Khwarizmi

No, you paid for the opportunity to earn a qualification.  You won't get anything in this life if you're not prepared to do some work for it.

TuefelHundenIV

The best part is the school can take your work put it in book and not have to pay you a dime.  Academia kinda sucks some times.

The plus side is original research is still yours and they have to credit you for it and if someone uses your stuff it bolsters your academic reputation.  Rep in academia is a very big deal.

Chagen

I know that.

But I'm just sardonically pointing that out. It was a little non-serious snark, is all.

TuefelHundenIV

Ahh trust me I more then understand how much of a pain it is.

glennmagusharvey

I think that annoying sources-cited paper-writing in high school is more so a preparation for college-level paper writing than anything else.

Because by the time you get to college and actually know your own field better, you will have a better sense of what you need to source and what you can consider common knowledge with your audience.

Now, obviously, if you ever become an academic or business researcher and write stuff with information that you leave unsourced but other people think requires sources, you don't get docked points, but other things happen.

Now that's for unsourced information.

The other thing about citing sources is because people have egos and want you to stroke theirs if you use things they've discovered/analyzed/philosophized when you state your reasoning and sources, other people can trace back where you got what you're talking about, so they can double-check your research.  This is, again, more relevant once you get into college and start doing "real" (as in more substantial, with the possibility of original findings) research.

Trash_Vortex

I have a huge paper due tommorrow, and I'm getting a sick pleasure out of delaying it as long as possible. Every second that ticks makes me feel like a KING, that is until tommorrow. But that only makes me cherish the feeling more.

DYRE

Sort of like people who don't pee when they have to because they have a "really-having-to-pee-but-can't" fetish?

Chagen

Anybody who does that is kind of dumb....

TheConductor

Said the boy who likes nappies.

Chagen

Ugh.

I know that WWII was happening and all, but seriously, I'm surprised at the low amount of sites I'm getting for "Korea Under Japanese Rule in WWII".

Thorn14

This is why I'm glad I went into art...

Chagen

In what way?

Anyway, this is the second-to-last day I have to work on this at all. And I'm still missing some stuff, never mind that my teacher pulled a classic "make-up-bullshit-as-I-go-along" plan. What I originally thought was the average expected as is actually the minimum expected. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I sure didn't hear her say that. Fuck.

Never mind that it requires using the internet, meaning my already-awful attention span is made even worse. There's no way I can focus long enough to make any kind of headway on this project.

And you know what the "icing" on this "cake" is? Assuming I don't take my final, I have to get a 95 in this class to get credit and pass for the year. Which means I have to get an A on this. Which I won't, I'm sure of it.

Sigh....Ich werde diese Klasse scheitern.

Chagen

Shiiiiiiiit-

I have to turn this in today. A combination of laziness and ADHD (so when I get off my ass and work, I'm too distracted by the internet to do anything useful) has meant that this thing is no where near finished. And I have to present it later on. God fucking dammit. I'll be so glad when Summer finally comes, though I'll probably fail anyway.

Fickst Schul und fickst diese Klasse.

 

glennmagusharvey

Would you like us to ban you for the day or something?  Though I'm not sure that would help much.

Vorpy

What?