IJBM: Leave

glennmagusharvey

Fookin' isolationist/nativist types.

fourteenwings

Well I kind of think the EU is way too big of a governing body
Like not out of nationalism but that kind of thing really screws over markets and exploits the less fortunate

I understand that the vote was won on super-terrible principles but the outcome was what I'd have gone for too. I can't claim to know exactly where the world goes after this, but the majority of the doom and gloom the news-cycle is peddling is probably not going to change things that much unless something really insane happens like David Cameron resigning wth man.

Also Draghi's financial policy is dumb <_<

glennmagusharvey

Silver lining is that the UK might stop laughing at the US's George W. Bush, Tea Party, Donald Trump, etc. problem.

Stormtroper

Iron Pill is disappoint.

fourteenwings

No way that

1. UKIP/Nigel Farage are on that level
2. George Bush was this much of an influence on market volatility.

Nigel Farage is way too awkward/incompetent (the preemptive loss speech, declaring INDEPENDENCE DAY etc) to even be a Scary Actual Possibility anyways.

lrdgck

On the positive side, the Britons will now be able to travel abroad without leaving the island. (The Irish, now, might just find the opposite.)

BassFishing

Austerity a shit.

Isolationism a shit. 

United Ireland would be cool, as well as an independent Scotland. A gal I know in Wales hopefully isn't too fucked over by the Leave voters.

Stormtroper

Alright, could someone explain why everybody (by which I mean TVT) is reacting like the UK is about to collapse?

(Do we have any Brits left besides Naas?)

glennmagusharvey

I'm not sure Naas even is a Brit.

Naas_Human

I am not.

Khwarizmi

Stormtroper wrote: »

Alright, could someone explain why everybody (by which I mean TVT) is reacting like the UK is about to collapse?

"Oh shit the economy"?

But i think at this point this is all very new and very confusing and nobody's quite sure what's going to happen or what the practical implications of this are, and there's been a fair bit of scaremongering from both camps.  Farage coming out within hours of the result and saying, "Sorry lads, that NHS thing might have been an eensie-weensie fib" probably didn't help.

The Prime Minister has resigned, without initiating Article 50, to the dismay of the Leave leaders who will now have to carry the responsibility for whatever happens next.  The Labour party is imploding on itself (9 shadow cabinet members have quit and counting, while Corbyn faces a vote of no confidence).  Withdrawing from the EU would apparently void the Good Friday agreement (uh oh) and #indyref2 is trending on twitter.  There are also people calling for a second referendum, or speculating over whether Parliament will reject the result (unlikely, but they still have to vote on this) and Sturgeon has implied Holyrood might veto Brexit.  Meanwhile the EU itself has made it clear they want us out ASAP rather than dragging this out to the point where other member states start copying us.

On top of all that there's the reasons for the withdrawal.  Xenophobia and racism set the tone of the initial debate, and it's unsettling to think that such a large proportion of one's countrymen were on board with that.  It's worrisome to many people with ethnic minority backgrounds, or relatives or spouses from Europe.  A Britain First supporter murdered an MP in public, and an attack of that kind hasn't happened here in decades.  The social climate is pretty grim right now.

Stormtroper

Oh hey, I summoned Bobby. Hi Bobby!

I think it's going to take a while before I understand what all that means. Ah well. Meanwhile, best of luck, UK!

Khwarizmi

Hi.  GMH summoned me. ^_^

Thanks for the luck.

lrdgck

Because it's been a while since the last Spurdo and the timing is right.

fourteenwings

Britain discovers one weird trick to lose pounds overnight

<_<

Bee

oh dear...