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"Everyone should have read/watched/listened to this; if you haven't you should be ashamed"
Y'know, things like this post.
I know they're joking. I know no one's actually serious when they say this. But there's just something at the back of my mind that says that's like, how can you expect people to know something, even if it's popular, so much so that they should feel bad if they don't know about it? Heck, we have people who don't know who the President of the United States is, and that's like trumpeted far and wide even to people in foreign countries.
Discuss.
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I have TVTropes leechblocked, what does the post say?
Basically "everyone on this site needs to own a copy of Deus Ex: Human Revolution".
I find statements like this to be just annoying fanboyism.
Glennmagusharvey,
"Donkey Kong Country is truly perfect, if you do not get this amazing new generation of Donkey Kong madness, you are stupid. Yes, I know, that's insulting, but it's also the truth."
I tend to agree with you about comments like the one you mentioned. From what I can tell, they seem to basically be an exaggerated way of saying "I really like this and I think you would too." I see no real problems with that sentiment, but if that is actually what people mean, I feel like they might as well say so.
While adding a bunch of qualifiers to make the statement into "I like this and you might maybe kind of like this too if you have similar tastes and preferences" may cause it to lose some of its force, I am not sure there really is much of reason to say "you should feel bad if you haven't seen/read/played this." Otherwise, I think people often get into silly elitist stuff about what great works everyone should have to experience based on some rather subjective criteria.
^ That is a related style of comment; instead of being about consumption of a specific media piece, it's about appreciation of a specific media piece.
That quote looks like a harmless joke. Is there some context that I've missed?
I guess it just gets annoying after a while. I mean, it's like everybody has something they'd insist is totally the best thing ever and everyone else should see that.
With video games, it's as if they forget to consider that -gasp!- some people might not have the console or hardware needed to play it.
So it's a matter of oversaturation, I can relate to that. Taken alone still doesn't seem awful.
There's also the level of fanboyism, perhaps. If somebody says X is the best thing ever, I'm inclined to believe that there is something else handles that the key aspects of X in a better way that they just haven't seen/read/whatever.
Of course, I'm just speaking for myself here.
If someone says X is the best thing ever, I'm inclined to believe that X is at least very good at a certain aspect A that makes it top of the field for works that use/portray A, and not necessarily but possibly reasonably good at aspects other than A.
Then some asshole might say "Do I really NEED to?"
Well, the reasoning isn't unsound: "buy this game so the publishers see that it's successful."
hyperboles gonna hype
Dude, hyperbole is fun. It is possibly the single greatest pastime ever.
For me it depends on the person's tastes or their education. Like, when a lit major says they haven't read Hamlet or Crime and Punishment, I just kinda want to slap them.
what what what
Isn't that required reading in most places
> that time when I had a Hamlet assignment at uni, referenced Batman and The Lion King, and got 80/100
But more seriously, yeah. A canon of material is something I consider largely useless for the purposes of general, public consumption, but if someone is in a context that demands more, they should know more. For instance, swordplay, right? Your average punter knows about sport fencing and kendo, but there's also armchair swordmasters out there that think they know their stuff and don't. Someone who wants to talk about lethal, historical Western swordsmanship probably doesn't know a damned thing if the names of Liechtenauer, Fiore and Silver are meaningless to them.
Oh, you can avoid it. But why would you when you're studying for a degree where such a work is reknown as, you know, hugely important and influential.
That said, I can still recite most of the to be or not to be speech from when I learned it in eighth grade to win a mandatory monologue contest in English class.
When we did Crime and Punishment in high school, it ended up turning into a discussion about Death Note, of all things.
I don't understand how referencing The Lion King when it comes to Hamlet is particular. I can sort of see Batman (MY PARENTS ARE DEAD -> I am Vengeance) as being particular if only because the above is a tenous relationship (Not one that hasn't been pointed out by Milligan, Gaiman and Morrison, granted) but still
Isn't the Lion King somewhat known for having loads of things in common with Hamlet?
Wait, are you saying that Batman is more tenuous, or that The Lion King is more tenuous?
In any case, I feel as though I got 80% despite trolling the essay to some degree, so I'm smugly pleased all the same.
The Lion King is about Scar being a mix and match of Macbeth and Cassius or whatever Hamlet's uncle was.
Technically teachers now get to choose between King Lear and Hamlet for grade 12 but it seems like it's usually Lear.
I had to read Hamlet. It was alright.
I certainly liked it more than Macbeth.
Honestly if your teachers were anything like mine they probably just gave you an 80 because you actually handed it in on time.
Batman is more tenous what with the Lion King being explicitly Hamlet with lions and all.
Either way, I don't understand why people are pointing out they didn't read Hamlet in high school when the example specifically said Lit Major. Am I missing something?