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  • You can change. You can.

    You know, if Saruman was the most tolerant and loving person in the world he wouldn't be the antagonist of the second book, would he?



    The point stands, though


    he's most definetly a douche


    and you should feel bad for liking him

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    You know, if Saruman was the most tolerant and loving person in the world he wouldn't be the antagonist of the second book, would he?



    There are plenty of ways to make someone untolerant without making them racist. :|

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Make them speciesist!


    Wait, there really wouldn't be much of a difference in a Tolkienesque high fantasy work, would it?

  • You can change. You can.

    Yeah, he pretty much hates on trees rather than people of a different race (Mostly because humans are apparently heavily homogenized in Tolkien's work, if the movies are anything to go by. I don't remember his description of people well enough) but that's still not cool, man.

  • edited 2012-10-14 09:11:50
    One foot in front of the other, every day.

    but so is tolkien if you believe people on the internet, so...



    This point lines up exceedingly well with why Saruman is a bad guy, actually. He wasn't said to be "breeding" an army of Uruk-Hai because it sounds cool -- Saruman was using eugenics to produce only the strongest and most hateful warriors possible. 


    Also, after failing and getting his shit ruined at both Helm's Deep and Orthanc, he runs to the Shire with what remains of his warriors in order to dominate and torment a bunch of short people who barely know what the word "war" means. What a dick. 


    ^ Races exist, vaguely, in Tolkien's work. Some of his terminology is less than politically correct, though -- being "black-skinned" was definitely a negative trait in his works. Then again, when Africans (Southrons, he calls them) show up, he doesn't use that as a descriptor. The term "black-skinned" seems to be entirely literal, and reserved for orcs and other beings corrupted by evil forces. Appropriate; I don't recall medieval terminology itself ever referring to Africans as black. In fact, calling people of dark skin colour "black" seems to be younger than the medieval periods themselves, probably arising somewhere between the Renaissance and the Early Modern periods of colonialism. 


    (Before colonialism, racial discrimination boiled down to "Hey, that person is dark-skinned. I bet they speak a North African language!". It was not a particularly huge deal on such a macro level, although there was more local discrimination between different flavours of white.)

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Hey, where else is he gonna get his bonus armies from.

  • edited 2012-10-14 09:11:29
    Definitely not gay.

    But he was so young!


    (Except not really)

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Acme.

  • No rainbow star

    Second Wind


    Fading


    Very tired now


    But too late to go to sleep


    z.z

  • Definitely not gay.

    What about you guys?


    Have you ever felt sorry at a fictional character's death?

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Yes.


    Phillip, from Kamen Rider W.

  • edited 2012-10-14 09:18:30
    You can change. You can.

    So, anyway, I've been blazing through The Wire. One of the really curious things about season 1 is how much of the show simply doesn't play out like the later seasons in terms of style. Mostly because back then Simon was only the guy who came up with the story rather than scripting the show.


    It's also funny how many of the characters you really end up liking by the end of the show (D'Angelo, Stringer and so on) are practically moustache-twirling villains by the end of the season.


    Mind you it's still really good, and there are definetly shades of grey on the Barksdale crew as the season goes along. But it's not as interesting or ambiguous as it is in season 3 when Marlo runs around and they have to reconsider their ways. Of course, that's the whole point, but still. 


    ^^ 



    everybody who watches the wire ever

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Yes, but the one that jumps to mind is spoilertastic for the work they exist within. But death isn't the biggest deal to me. If I like a character, or at least find them sympathetic, then I feel for both their triumphs and their suffering. Death in fiction tends to be meaningful, anyway, so there's often a silver lining. Boromir selling his life in LotR is a good example. But when a character suffers, I find it much more emotional in general. 

  • Definitely not gay.

    I thought Juan was going to say Darkseid from FC.


    I'd feel sorry for him if his death wasn't one of the coolest deaths ever

  • edited 2012-10-14 09:25:41
    You can change. You can.

    Why the fuck would I feel sad about that


    Darkseid dying is like the best thing in the whole world.



    I mean, he's killed by Superman being metal as fuck


    what's not to love

  • >be me


    >wake up way too early for excursion to church(mandatory, class I need for the points, etc.)


    >get up extra early because trains are borked due to 'extensive maintenance'(this usually means leaves on the rails, at least in autumn)


    >church is gaudy as heck, am the only peep in the class to actually like it that way: http://www.sintwillibrordkerk.nl/english/panorama.php


    >afterwards, rush back to wedding of old highschool bros through traffic lights, train delays and rain


    >people still arriving twenty minutes later than the ceremony deadline and no-one bats an eye


    >wedding ceremony is in old highschool, since the hall is perfectly fine for a ceremony. place hasn't changed at all


    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stedelijk_Gymnasium_Leiden


    >at the reception a cavalcade of relyricized songs for the pair causes the attendants to break out the booze early


    >the plague of kid nieces and nephews descends, teach the girls some Valley expressions because they have just the right voice for it and the boys that making a bow out of teacup stirsticks or whatever they're called in English works a lot better with three instead of two


    >Indonesian buffet for dinner


    >abandon ship to bike home inbetween the rain


    >suit down for Saturday night


    >crash housewarming which is a snoozefest


    >evening ends with the saturday night regulars trying out Ghirahim without ever having played that game before and Who-Am-I where everybody turns out to be a pornstar or some variant thereof


    Not a bad day, all in all.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Gaudy churches are great. Love the commitment to concept. 

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
  • if u do convins fashist akwaint hiz faec w pavment neway jus 2 b sur

    ^y


    ^^^You should write a blog, in your usual style.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    done


    and now


    it's 3AM


    and my grandmother and my grandfather are fucking talking in the next room


    goddammit


    i want to fucking sleep so will you please shut up

  • I'm a damn twisted person

    Am I the only one who felt kinda bad for Cain, even though he did flip out and kill his brother? I mean God's blatant favoritism wasn't doing the guy any favors, so it's not surprising he hated Abel, the golden boy. 

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    not an excuse to flip out and murder people


    i mean


    really

  • if u do convins fashist akwaint hiz faec w pavment neway jus 2 b sur

    Then again, Cain didn't even know that killing somebody is possible.

  • It's also funny how many of the characters you really end up liking by the end of the show (D'Angelo, Stringer and so on) are practically moustache-twirling villains by the end of the season.


    I get Stringer, but D'? He's easily one of the most sympathetic characters from season 1... unless you mean the beginning of the season, and even then, the scene where Jimmy and The Bunk guilt trip him into making the pseudo-confession show that he's not as ruthless as the rest of his family. He still does some pretty questionable stuff, and is still a drug dealer. But I wouldn't say he's overtly villainous, let alone to Stringer's (in season 1 and 2) level.

  • You can change. You can.

    I don't think he's quite sympathetic until the scene where he realizes what Stringer and Avon did to Wallace (And by extension, Brodie and Poot). Before that...well, he's not quite moustache-twirly (Fun fact about the Wire: Nobody is moustache twirly except for Marlo and Morrie) he's definetly not a good person until he realizes how much did Wallace suffer because of the game. Or at the very least, he realizes how fucked up the game is yet remains on it and plays it almost gleefully. 

  • I interpreted it as him not realizing he has the choice to leave the game. After all, he was born into it, and his whole support group pressures him into staying (Donette getting back with him right after Shardene leaves him because of her friend, Brianna's whole family speech, Stringer's pep talks and praise when he's doing a good job in the pit). The fact that despite being pretty eager at the beginning he gradually realizes how out of place he is in the business, and the small but noticeable things he does throughout the season (Not reporting the guys who were stealing from him, encouraging Wallace to get out of the game) make him quite sympathetic.


     


    But then again, opinions.

  • ^^How does this even suprise? The more people are shocked, outraged and saddened, the more the trolls feed on it, alongside a feeling of power of showing how ineffective Facebook moderation is. And the trolls are probably banking on the American model of incident lawmaking that leads to the law overshooting the mark(methinks on the front of privacy invasion/too harsh measures in comparison to the age of the bullies) and being discarded in parliament.

  • edited 2012-10-14 19:07:47
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I saw Sinister. Wasn't bad.



    It felt very much like an adaptation of a Slender Man creepypasta. Like, you change some names, some minor details, and it would work. Enjoyed it, though.



    Also, I was surprised to discover that my youngest sister knows who the Slender Man is.


    Tried to get her to give Marble Hornets a shot, but no such luck so far.
  • yea i make potions if ya know what i mean

    ^^That isn't trolling. It's dickery. Idiots on a power high, whatever you want to call it. Some people are just sociopaths, and unfortunately, those people tend to coalesce on the internet.


    Trolling is this

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