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Q: What is a girl gamer?
A: A gamer who happens to be female. Or a girl who happens to play games.
^^Same here. I've never actually seen it happen, but I hear people talk about it all the time. When I noticed people complaining about "girl gamers" my first reaction was "Wait, what? What's wrong with girls liking video games?" but apparently it's this whole thing I've never even been aware of.
It's obvious that guy gamers don't look at themselves in the mirror since most of the time, the attention whoring projected onto girl gamers are far more common in guys.
I've always disliked the term "gamer girl" and its connotations. Being a girl who plays video games does not make you special.
A miserable little pile of stereotypes created by insecure male nerds
I don't think there's vidya with agendered characters. Yet.
Many Pokémon are genderless.
go away, partypooper
"How about just being a person who likes vidya without gender in it?"
But you see, it's not right for a woman to game. Soon she starts getting ideas, thinking, having an opinion, writing blog posts questioning the status quo....
I've certainly seen "MaleShep".
Some pretty good discussion going on ITT.
Gamers marginalize pretty women who play videogames because it makes them feel challenged and underpriveleged
"Gamers marginalize pretty women who play videogames because it makes them feel challenged and underpriveleged"
Pretty has little to do with it when you're looking for a sexism excuse.
What I really hate and find perplexing is the double standard of gaming editorials. A woman writing about sexism in gaming: "Shun the overly offended feminazi who dares suggest we think about our games!" A man writing something similar: "Hail the wise sage who dares suggest we think about our games!"
"Roger Ebert is an old fart! What does he know? Games are already art!"
-buy Modern Warfare 3 in record numbers, heap critical acclaim reserved for monumentally great games upon Mass Effect 3 and Battlefield 3, encourage blatant sexism, racism, and homophobia while pretending to be progressive-
And I'd argue that modern warfare 3 and battlefield 3 are under th definition of art. Just not good art.
>What I really hate and find perplexing is the double standard of gaming editorials. A woman writing about sexism in gaming: "Shun the overly offended feminazi who dares suggest we think about our games!" A man writing something similar: "Hail the wise sage who dares suggest we think about our games!"
What even further perplexes me is that the male ones are almost always more vicious and angry whereas the female ones are more 'let's work together to solve a problem.' There are deviations, but you'd figure the more mature discourse would get better reception.
Also, this thread could do with less strawmanning and more actual points, Mr. Limbaugh.
This is actually a result of people's general assumption that if a person does something, he/she is presumed to be in it for personal gain unless that something isn't an obvious source of personal gain.
>not monumentally great
Also, I don't think being bad precludes something from being art. There's plenty of terrible art out there.
I've seen dudeshep and maleshep and broshep quite a bit. I usually just see Shepard referred to as "Shepard," regardless of gender though, but whatever.
But maleshep is the one on the game box and in the trailers. It's not some horrible sexist thing that people see him as the default because of that.
And only something like 18% of players play as femshep anyway, so it's not like she's the norm.
They fixed that for 3.
Most gamers are male, and males prefer using male avatars because of immersion. And when they use female ones, it's usually because of hot polygonal ass, which is also sexist. So it's kind of expectable that most (male) gamers think of male Shepard as the default.
And there are times when you need to differentiate between the two genders, like when you're talking about romances.
I'd argue that the fact that he was the one on the game box and trailers and not female shephard is "some horrible sexist thing"
He was probably concepted first, and thus showed up on the box art.
And then, because he was on the box art, maleshep became the default.
^^ I disagree, but I have a headache and I don't feel like getting into this, so I'm just going to back out now.
>And only something like 18% of players play as femshep anyway, so it's not like she's the norm
I don't see how that's relevant. Shepherd is (ideally) designed so that she could be either gender with no affact either way so no matter what treating either as the default has sexist implications.
I find it odd to call ME specifically sexist when most series just throw you into either a male character or a female character meant to seduce male players.
Just for the record, I'm not saying that the art should have only featured Male Shephard, but simply that if one of your game's selling points is that you can design your character's characteristics, to the way he acts in terms of the story, including their gender, therefore it follows that both female and male shepherd would show up on the marketing material.