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  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    That is exajctly wha tthey are doing if you do not pay the tax the government will use force against you.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Has anyone from the government ever held you at gunpoint?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Taxes are basically the rent. It's your duty as a civilian to pay them. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    edited 2011-05-24 01:07:32
    i'm a minor I havn't had any chance ot violat ea law that involves forcing me in to an involuntary situation.

    So wait. RAISE TAXES AND SOLVE EVERYTHING SINCE WE CAN'T TRUST REGULAR PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN LIVES WE HAV ETO BABYSIT THEM AND BE THEIR MOMMY!

    The cult of the omnipotent state.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-05-24 01:06:26
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I thought you said you were like 20.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    well yeah i'm sturggling with getting a job right now so i'm living wiht my parents and besides I don't go out much.  It's complicated I would throw tea at a local government building for starters but my dad works there.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    So wait. RAISE TAXES AND SOLVE EVERYTHING SINCE WE CAN'T TRUST REGULAR PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN LIVES WE HAV ETO BABYSIT THEM AND BE THEIR MOMMY!

    All taxes do is to enable the citizen to have a better lifestyle. It's your choice if you go to the hospital, not the government's. All the government does is give you a chance. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out  of other peoples money.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Not really.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Ok would yu feel comfortable using someone elses money that was taken from them and buying your own shit?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Yes, very much so. Why do you ask? Are you offering your money?

    I can give you my paypal account. :D
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    listne if someone voluntarily offers you their money it's perfeclty alright but nobody should be forced to pay for anyone elses shit.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    To be fair, you're only paying for everyone's "shit", as you call it, indirectly.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    So in essence Bob gets his big brother Frank to point the gun at my head and pay for Bobs shit.
  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV
    edited 2011-05-24 01:29:33

    To be fair, you're only paying for everyone's "shit", as you call it, indirectly.

    Why does it matter whether it is direct or indirect?  You're paying either way.  And all this talk of guns is starting to bug me.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Because you're only paying the government. It's your duty as a civilian. Whatever the government does with your money is an entirely different thing altogether. In an idealistic, perfect scenario, you're giving them money so they can establish public services and general stuff to enable both law enforcement and keep the cogs running. In practice...well...not really.
  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV
    edited 2011-05-24 01:32:48

    I agree wholeheartedly - as a subject of the law.  But I am also a citizen and voter.  As a citizen and voter I control the government that collects that rent.  I consider it the duty of government to treat the money it collects and spends with respect for the hard work that went into creating that wealth.

  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    I don't trust the government with my money in most systems the government isn't stirctly defiend so they get pretyt much free reign I like my limited Constituional system thank you very much.
  • DiamonnesDiamonnes

    Indeed! Deleting part of my post which broke no rules whatsoever is a very enlightened action! Censorship just because I don't agree with the current authority? Hello, fora, I do love the smell of despotism in the morning! Jolly good!


    TNU: That's not quite how it works; Bob's also paying for your shit, too, and each of you have to buy some shit yourself.


     

  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Damnit I never aske Bob for any money is he givingit of his own free will?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I agree wholeheartedly - as a subject of the law. But I am also a citizen and voter. As a citizen and voter I control the government that collects that rent. I consider it the duty of government to treat the money it collects and spends with respect for the hard work that went into creating that wealth.

    That's good. But the problem is that you're kinda implying that the government should prioritze one over the other...it shouldn't. It should treat them both as equals and help both areas to be strong.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    As far as i'm concerned government takover of things they hav eno jurisdiction over is illegal. if the government isn't strictly defined how exactly do you expect to preserve liberty?
  • FrodoGoofballCoTVFrodoGoofballCoTV

    you're kinda implying that the government should prioritze one over the other...it shouldn't. It should treat them both as equals and help both areas to be strong.

    Sorry, I'm implying which over what?

  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Ok taking some advice from my lawyer i'm leaving my thread before you molest my system.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Wealth over healthcare.

    Although I might have misread...if I did so, I apologize. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Do we not have a right to our own money? does a doctor not hav ea right to treat or not treat whomever he pleases?
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-05-24 01:47:14
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW?!

    /bioshock
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Exactly he is and why should hte government have the right to take that way from him for the will of hte collective?
  • DiamonnesDiamonnes

    Off-topic: Who is the ninja mod and why do you put up with its antics?


     


    Censorship is inherently wrong, especially when applied to pointless little things.

  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
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