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First off, you're not taking exactly what was written. You're taking what was written and twisting its meaning so that it seems illogical. Secondly, as much as I'd love to keep talking about this... actually, no, I wouldn't. Having to debate agai…
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You seem to be interpreting all of those passages in the worst possible way, and making a lot of assumptions about the text that you aren't meant to make. Skeptics Annotated Bible Oh, that explains it.
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God says "don't allow this" it's probably a good idea to not allow it. I've gotta get to bed for now.
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Final Fantasy XIII is clearly the best one.
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Who ever said it was make-believe? Can you prove that it's make-believe? More importantly, do you have an objective standard for morality?
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Since the Bible says so (teen sex not necessarily so, although the teens in question would have to be married).
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Can a state forbid people from gay marriage, abortion, teen sex etc but not force people to share wealth? Yes. The difference is that doing the former is a matter of stopping evil, while the latter is a matter (heheheh) of trying to force goodness.…
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The number one thing they need to do for the sequel is have good online.
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because you can never meet a gay person and decide "maybe they're just like me after all", because in your book, or perhaps your idea of your book, it's written that they aren't. Just to make things clear, the Bible doesn't teach anything about gays…
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That was the best editing I've seen in quite a while. Fun stuff.
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Perhaps you may not feel the impulse for altruism, or for guilt. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist in others. Just as long as you have some reason not to kill or steal, that's fine. You can talk about impulses all you like, but people wouldn't stea…
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We're human beings. We can think for ourselves. We don't need to be threatened with eternal damnation to be decent people. Define "decent" and tell me why your definition is correct. YES! Why? However, if you consider personal utility to include…
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You are taking away the right for another human being to live. Tell me why this is not a bad thing unless God says so. Because I say it isn't. Your conscience. God doesn't factor in here; it's based on one's feelings of right and wrong. That's wha…
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What if I want those things to be legal? It's your desire against mine. Why is yours more right? Heck, do unto others as you would want others to do unto you. Isn't that a Christian principle anyway?
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What? When did I speak out against capitalism?
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Stop strawmanning. I'm not. These are my own beliefs, assuming that the Bible is false.
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The threat of repercussion for crime should be enough if you need to search for a "logical" reason. These things should not be criminalized if there's no objective standard to classify them as wrong. But even before that, there's empathy and social…
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I like turtles.
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Unless the Bible is true, then having empathy is stupid and detrimental to one's self. Niceness tends to come at the cost of personal gain.
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Well, there'd be no logical reason to have qualms about any of those things. So yeah, I'd be fine with 'em.
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So... "[x] is wrong because [x] is wrong"? 'kay.
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But why is that moral code any better than the hypothetical moral code of "murder, cheat, steal, and do whatever it takes to further my own goals"?
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You want to be free do you not? You want ot live do you not? You don't want to be stolen from do yo u? So protect your own life, liberty, and property, screw everyone and everything else. It's much easier to get what you want when you don't have to…
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Why is it good to protect life, liberty, and property?
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that is the one situation where force is justified when it is in opoosition to force. the key isue is the initiation of force. Why is it any more acceptable to use force in response than to initiate it? And what about crimes like theft, that don't …
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The Code of Hammurabi, for one. And was the Code of Hammurabi laid down by the all-powerful and all-knowing God of the universe (indirectly, it was, but do you believe that)? If not, then it's as arbitrary as anything else and not really valid. …
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The key point that people argue over is exactly this: what exactly is considered wrong? Again, whatever God says is wrong. If we can't agree that that's the standard for all morality, there's not much point in going any further in this debate, or a…
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Thing is, what do you define as evil? Whatever the Bible says is evil. How would you differentiate between responsible desire for self-advancement and attempts to gain more than one's fair share? There's no such thing as "more than one's fair share…
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The purpose of the government is to restrain evil, not to force goodness. Welfare states don't avoid the stepping on of toes, they just do it themselves.
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Socialism also means that the means of distribution are owned by the government. Which means that basically the government controls whatever they want to. When one takes into account that most politicians only want power, and that power corrupts..…