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  • AlirozTheConfusedAlirozTheConfused
    edited 2013-12-06 21:45:56

    Nevermind, wrong thread.

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    I can't see any grave bad sides to Mandela.



    He supported Jacob Zuma and not Thabo Mbeki. He also thought having Julius Malema do anything was a good thing. He also helped develop the ANC=Only Winning Party Ever culture, which is terrible for any presidential election here.



    Was de Clerk an Apartheid politician who realized Apartheid is bad, or just one who realized it is bad for him?


    but in the end he *was* an Apartheid politician



    I'm pretty sure he was the only one willing to negotiate, since negotiations started less than a year after he was elected.


    As for him being an Apartheid politician, changing the system from within worked better than not, right?

  • OctoOcto
    I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    Of course Mandela made some mistakes. Who doesn't? But if the worst you can bring up against him are some personnel decisions, then uh, yes, I think that speaks well of Mandela.


    Now, de Klerk - he was necessary. But he still was part of the very same suppressive system that was the problem in the first place. I mean, it wasn't even like he was a white opposition member. He was member (leading member even, obviously) of the ruling National Party. He led the Apartheid Party.

  • StormtroperStormtroper
    edited 2013-12-07 06:36:44
    I'm pretty sure 14wings does have a good perspective on how damaging those personnel decisions and overall bad side of Mandela was, or how benefitial the actions and overall good side of de Klerk was.
  • OctoOcto
    I don't even call it violence when it's in self defence; I call it intelligence.

    So I take it from your statement he is South African?


    Eh... might be taken as arrogant, but I still stand by what I say, unless I hear good arguments to the contrary.

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    edited 2013-12-07 06:57:41
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    But if the worst you can bring up against him are some personnel decisions,



    There was no way anybody was going to become ANC chairman without his vote, it's not a personal decision if it's that big a deal and you know it. Thabo Mbeki actually put in place lots of the great financial and humanitarian framework we have in place today, Jacob Zuma built himself a Secret Defense Traditional Castle and is practically the cover boy for nepotism.


    I don't even think there's a place to start with Julius Malema, but all his own nepotism/favoraitism seems good.


    I think you mean:



    He led the Apartheid Party to change.



    And yes I'm South African.

  • lrdgcklrdgck
    "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Uhhh...


     


    You know guys, while idly browsing the 'Net, I decided to check what's going on at Annebeeche's tumblr page. I entered the address, hit Enter, and, uh... Well, it was my fault technically, I misremembered one word for another and so entered the wrong address. It's just that I still wouldn't expect that to lead me to, uh, a rather explicit porn site. Gifs. I'm a bit shaken.

  • StormtroperStormtroper

    Lesiba Gwangwa steals shit



    I just wanted to point out that "ganga" is Spanish for bargain prices.

  • lrdgcklrdgck
    "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Hmm-mhm. 


    @ fourteenwings: which kind of South African, if I may ask? 

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    edited 2013-12-08 23:31:09
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    Mixed race (Black, Zulu IIRC/Afrikaans).


    Unless you mean something else entirely <_<

  • KrakenKraken

    Irdgck means are you the kind of South African that hides from the rain or licks chuppa-chups.

  • lrdgcklrdgck
    "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    That was what I meant, thanks for the answer. Heh. Mixed race was actually what I didn't expect, with all the many options to pick it slipped my attention.

  • NoimportaNoimporta

    which kind of South African, if I may ask?



    The kind that watches too much anime, if you ask me.

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    sometimes i watch toku

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    and sometimes you watch U.S. sitcoms too.

  • Naas_HumanNaas_Human
    edited 2013-12-10 00:31:14

    I don't remember fourteenwings talking about sitcoms much. And IIRC he didn't recognize "hi, I'm [x], could I be any more [y]?", which is such an easy thing.


    (I don't really care about the show that's from, it's just a really easy thing to recognize)

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2013-12-10 00:42:38
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    I thought he talked about some U.S. live-action TV shows, which I thought were sitcoms he was lamenting the poor quality of.


    Of course, I don't actually watch TV myself so I didn't know what it was.

  • KrakenKraken

    Fourteen watches more U.S. dramas, if my memory serves me correctly.

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2013-12-10 06:02:56
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Fair enough.  And that would probably be a good thing anyway.  Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't watch TV dramas either...other than Law & Order.  Tried to get into Veronica Mars once but my schedule wouldn't let me.

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    edited 2013-12-10 08:22:20
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    which I thought were sitcoms he was lamenting the poor quality of.



    Not even I hate myself enough to watch those. @Kraken is right.



    Tried to get into Veronica Mars once but my schedule wouldn't let me.



    That ended when Gossip Girl started, there are only three seasons. If I can watch all of Gossip Girl, you can marathon Veronica Mars.

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2013-12-11 07:54:55
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    How long is each season?


    ----


    This turns out to be a pretty good suggestion for study music: use EndlessVideo to loop your favorite slow jazz track, and throw in fireplace and rain sounds.  (The track given is Godot's track from the Phoenix Wright remix album Turnabout Jazz Soul.)

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    64 episodes total plus an upcoming movie apparently.

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    ...is it good?

  • fourteenwingsfourteenwings
    There is love everywhere, I already know

    I have never ever seen any of it, just looked it up on wikipedia.

  • StormtroperStormtroper

    > watching TV

  • vandrovandro
    edited 2013-12-11 22:00:27
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    I loved veronica mars. She had a pretty fun dynamic and the season long mysteries of the first two seasons were pretty interesting, sprinkled were the episodic misteries she had to solve for money and you got a recipe for fun.

  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss

    "> LinkedIn group of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Alumni

    > discussion board

    Were you ever worried that the level of discourse from alumni of a prestigious and famous postsecondary institution would be significantly higher than the usual?

    > most popular thread: Collectivism is back! ...and BAD!: Wisconsin State Budget Battle

    > second most popular thread: A Cleantech VC Who is Unconvinced of Man-Made Climate Change

    Fear no more!"


    > Americans


    Sadly, that joke isn't as applicable anymore thanks to Stephen Harper and Rob Ford.

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2013-12-11 22:55:08
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Don't be racist; people of other cultures can be just as bone-headed!


     


    (also, [ quote ] and [/ quote ] are things now)


     


    > get extra food from cafeteria


    > wait about 8 hours before eating it


    > dish now has a coating of vegetable oil


    why do used so much oil

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    [23:25:58] http://i.imgur.com/jlRuM4E.png People are getting automatic content claims from companies that DON'T EXIST.

  • StormtroperStormtroper

    Happy Friday the 13th!

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