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When the actual show are different from what you expected thanks to the blurbs about them

edited 2011-12-29 07:57:39 in General
They're somethin' else.
I thought Crying Freeman was going to be a comedy about an unwilling assassin sniveling like a coward while he's laying waste to everything. In other words, Jacuzzi Splot, The Anime.

Instead, I'm treated to a melodramatic yakuza epic, and as thankful as I am for having read/seen it, I wonder if it would have been just as good if it met my expectations.
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  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Black Death.

    Honestly that's all. If you know how it was advertised and have seen the movie, you'll get the difference. The actual film was a lot more introspective and intelligent than suggested by pre-release material, and it's an excellent film. All the same, it sounded awesome as it was advertised, in no small part due to Sean Bean.
  • My friend once sold me on Lucky Star by saying "You'll like it, it's like a cartoon Seinfeld!"

    I will never forgive him for the crime he committed on that day. Ughhhhhh, Lucky Star. As if I needed more reasons to hate modern anime.
  • They're somethin' else.


    Though truth be told, the "eat food" part is only in the first 10 minutes.

  • I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.


    Anybody who has actually seen the movie Synecdoche, NY can see the problem.

  • They're somethin' else.

    I can't take Phillip Seymour Hoffman seriously anymore after having watched him in Happiness. Holy Fuck.

  • They're somethin' else.

    Necro:

    When Redwall was first described to me back in middle school, in my mind, I visualized it having a gritty as shit anime style along the lines of Record of Lodoss War. Turns out, it's just some damn PBS show.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Record of Lodoss War never struck me as particularly gritty. 

  • They're somethin' else.

    I was a middle school kid ._.

    Also, i suppose I view Berserk now how I viewed Lodoss back then. I suppose the closest thing I'd get to "gritty as shit anthro medieval shenanigans" is Guin Saga.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    I can see how Lodoss was going for more gritty (for instance, redshirt good guys die in droves), but I don't think that really came out in atmosphere. On the other hand, I'm kind of biased. When the friendly redshirts would die in droves, it looked to me as if they were essentially committing suicide with their techniques and tactics. Most of the audience wouldn't pick that up, but to me they didn't seem like very good fighters. Not that I can expect anime to have historically correct European weapons techniques, but there's inaccurate and there's silly, you know? 


    I appreciate how Lodoss is essentially a D&D anime played absolutely straight, and despite that working against it, it's reasonably good. But I never understood how it really became a cult classic, especially compared to the self-aware shenanigans and playing-with-the-genreness of Slayers.


    Also, the villains in Lodoss are hilarious

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    I think Lodoss being based off of a D&D campaign is very apparent.


    To say, it was complete shit.


    I mean, it might have made for a great campaign, but what makes for a surprising and tight interactive story isn't going to wow passive viewers.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Yeah. Tabletop and vidya are convergent in that area; a lot of great gaming experiences are "you had to be there" affairs. In an anime, a nondescript battle between a soldier and a werewolf can be perfectly boring where it might be absolutely riveting in a game because of our fine mechanical understanding of what's at stake and how the battle's going, not to mention tactical input and all that jazz. 


    And this is the biggest problem facing adaptations from or into games. 

  • edited 2012-04-24 10:46:26

    I mean, it might have made for a great campaign, but what makes for a surprising and tight interactive story isn't going to wow passive viewers.



    Untrue.  The series started as literally nothing more than transcripts from a D&D campaign, and it did wow passive viewers(/readers), or else it wouldn't have become such a successful franchise in the first place.


     Also, regarding the actual topic of this thread....


    not a show, but before playing it I was under the impression that the Sakura Wars games were SRPGs with dating sim elements but seems that the opposite is the case, in that they are visual novels/dating sims with some SRPG gameplay.


    Agarest War turned out to be the opposite, where it is advertised as if it's a visual novel/dating sim, but it turns out it's pretty much just a typical SRPG, for 90% of the game. 


    Also...



    But I never understood how it really became a cult classic, especially compared to the self-aware shenanigans and playing-with-the-genreness of Slayers.



    >implying that Slayers isn't also widely considered to be a classic. 

  • Likes cheesecake unironically.

    I expected Duke Nukem Forever to be a successor of Duke Nukem 3D.


    Instead it's just accumulation of the negative things of modern FPS, without any of the positive ones, that lives more from it's attempt at being offensive and showing how awesome it's main character is (which, considering that he isn't awesome at all, fails hard) than it's gameplay.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    I thought that was pretty obvious from...well, everything about it.


    I never got how "oh, wow, they're actually releasing Duke Nukem Forever, bringing an end to a fifteen-year joke" turned into "people actually want to play Duke Nukem Forever."

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    ^Curiousity? The novelty of returning a fifteen-year-old prepay card in for the game?


    In any case, Highschool of the dead I thought was just going to be an animu in the style of Romero films, but yeah....

  • edited 2012-04-24 16:21:51
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I kind of felt like HSotD was almost a good show. If it had been more zombies and Hirano and less "BOOBS BOOBS BOOBS LOOK AT THE GIGANTIC MUTANT BOOBS" I would have liked it a lot more.
  • Likes cheesecake unironically.

    Yeah, I thought that HotD is merely a zombie apocalypse manga with quite some fanservice. Especially, that every female character has ludicrously large breasts was weird. But I thought that it won't be that much worse than this.


    Then I read the second volume and the bath scene happened...

  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-04-24 16:51:34

    When Redwall was first described to me back in middle school, in my mind, I visualized it having a gritty as shit anime style along the lines of Record of Lodoss War. Turns out, it's just some damn PBS show.



    Not sure if joking or never read the books.  They're pretty fucking dark -- of course a PBS cartoon isn't going to be able to air Matthias charging through the abbey cleaving stoats in half, or Skipper ripping out a dude's jugular with his teeth.  Hell, I'm surprised they were allowed to air as much of the series as they did -- Mattimeo was about a frigging child slavery ring of all things, never mind half the cast getting slain gruesomely.


    I'm pretty sure the only reason my grade school library kept it stocked was because they looked at the cover and saw happy fuzzy animals.  I mean if they bothered reading the first book they'd see Cluny dismembering his own minions by chucking them under a moving wagon in like, chapter TWO.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    >I kind of felt like HSotD was almost a good show. If it had been more zombies and Hirano and less "BOOBS BOOBS BOOBS LOOK AT THE GIGANTIC MUTANT BOOBS" I would have liked it a lot more.


    Pretty much my thoughts exactly. And it pretty much fails at the fanservice part too, what with the presence of rotting corpses and how awkward the boobs the dude draws are.

  • edited 2012-04-24 16:53:44
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^ That cartoon was pretty terrible, even as a kid.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-04-24 17:06:16

    It was, but I'm not sure how any channel other than like, Adult Swim would be able to do it justice.  I mean, motherfuck that shit got disturbing, but it wasn't exactly stuff you could cut out without completely derailing the story seeing how the whole running family tree thing is a critical theme of the series.


    The interviews with Brian Jacques were pretty cool though.

  • Mosswood trilogy was always one of my childhood favs, which had a decent amount of gore for its age rating. Not the grimdark herpityderp hyperbole, but on a Grimm level.

  • edited 2012-04-24 17:10:57
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    For the longest time, Salamandastron was my favorite book as a kid. That, and Martin The Warrior.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-04-24 17:45:03

    Oh god I loved Martin the Warrior.  Friggen Felldoh, man.  "Elaborate war sequence?  Squirrel, please.  I'm gonna charge the castle alone head on and bludgeon the villain to death with a javelin."


    It almost worked.


    I mean yeah he wasn't the brightest candle in the box, his vendetta threw shit into the fan before the good guys were ready, and he's an all-around textbook example of why you don't fight a one-man war, but still.

  • I thought Kamen Rider Kiva was going to be a semi-operatic, Blade/Spawn/Vampire the Masquerade pastiche with monster mash elements.



    It wasn't. It was a angst-fest of monster-killing and miscommunications and 'prayer for the immortal life-suckers' bullshit.
  • I once read a book called The Battle Horse, in which rich kids fight in mock jousting tournaments and pay poor kids to be their "horses." The cover blurb claims that suddenly, it turns into an actual jousting tournament, the poor kids turn into actual horses, and the protagonist needs to beat the Black Knight to turn things back. The book itself is realistic fiction with no magic whatsoever! (Don't get me wrong, it's a really good book, and I highly recommend it if you can find it, but that blurb was just weird.)

  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-04-24 19:34:30

    The 40-Year-Old Virgin had a pretty misleading ad campaign.  Seeing how the ultimate point of the movie was like, the exact opposite of the plot.

  • Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    wha....?
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