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Dr. Seuss was a political cartoonist.

edited 2012-02-09 20:23:02 in General

Why the hell can't we ever have political cartoonists as creative as him? These days they just use labels to hit you over the head with painfully obvious metaphors.

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  • edited 2012-02-09 20:27:23
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Robin Walker and John Cook are political game designers.


    See all that useless fighting between the red team and the blue team?  Yeah.  It's apparently fun to play, and sometimes also fun to watch.  But ultimately it's a huge waste of time.  Nevertheless, some people are profiting handsomely from it.

  • edited 2012-02-09 21:21:23

    It's not the cartoonist, it's the political cartoons themselves. At least, I've noticed various genius cartoonists who've written political cartoons as bad as you'd come to expect. Judging from a quick Google Images search, Dr. Seuss was no different.


     


    Edit: Grammars.

  • ^ Well, yes. His cartoons tended to hit you over the head with the intended message, too, but at least he still went through the trouble of adding his own unique charm to them with his creative visual design.



    These days all political cartoonists do is use the same caricature style they've been doing for such a long time.

  • I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.

    I wouldn't exactly call Seuss's cartoons the epitome of high class and wit, myself...



    ...though he wasn't actually a racist and ended up apologizing, in a roundabout way, with Horton Hears a Who, which is nice.


     


    But truth be told, you've never experienced bad political cartoons unless you'ved witnessed the horrors of Asay/McCoy/Muir/Tinsley/Lester/Liccar/Krishnov/etc. 

  • We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year

    Don't remind me.



     




     

  • No rainbow star
    I like how Penny Arcade satirized the whole idea like that :D
  • Are those Dr Seuss cartoons truly political cartoons though? They look more as if they were done for government propaganda, rather than to express his views.


  • But truth be told, you've never experienced bad political cartoons unless you'ved witnessed the horrors of Asay/McCoy/Muir/Tinsley/Lester/Liccar/Krishnov/etc.



     


    I'm having a seriously hard time telling which cartoons are serious and which ones are taking the piss.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    ^IIRC, that guy's the Onion's political cartoonist.

  • Sure, just be a spoilsport and tell everyone that whydoncha

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Where's the crying statue of liberty?

  • edited 2012-02-10 13:28:02

    @Stormtroper: same.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    That Something Awful thread... I can't tell which are sincere and which are sarcastic...

  • «Are those Dr Seuss cartoons truly political cartoons though? They look more as if they were done for government propaganda, rather than to express his views.»


    Dr. Seuss was very pro-Roosevelt and such.

  • edited 2012-02-10 14:33:43
    I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.
    I'm having a seriously hard time telling which cartoons are serious and which ones are taking the piss.

    Fun fact: Those Kelly cartoons (the ones with the little fat dude in the corner) are satires, as pointed out by INUH. More often than not they're about how the liberals/socialists/communists/terrorists are out to destroy our way of life via asinine things like taking over ice cream shops, Domino's new pizza formula, etc.


    There has been more than one occasion where an actual, serious political cartoonist has made a cartoon incredibly similar to a Kelly cartoon.


    tl,dr; the only ones taking the piss in there are the Kelly cartoons. So yes, the ones who wrote "Why yes, that would be a great spot for a mosque" and "Just making sure there're no survivors" and drawing pictures of Norwegians depicted as cowards because they're not raping and pillaging and whatnot are all completely serious.

  • I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.

    Why did you post what is probably the least-bad Pigman?

  • Why Wisconsin?

  • That was painfully unfunny.

  • Well Tim and Eric so, obviously.

  • I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.

    Don't post Pigman, post cartoons that actual get published in newspapers












     


     


     

  • No rainbow star
    ^ Please say that this is a game of, "spot the single real one"...
  • I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.

    Okay, it's a game of "spot the single real one."


     


    Answer: ALL OF THEM THERE IS NO HOPE OR HEAVEN GOD IS DEAD AND WE HAVE KILLED HIM


  • There has been more than one occasion where an actual, serious political cartoonist has made a cartoon incredibly similar to a Kelly cartoon.



     


    I know, right? You know the "I thought the Onion only published fake things" cliché? I had one of those the first time I saw them.


     


    Also, is Dees for real? Like, I know he's batshit insane and believes the meaning behind his cartoons, but there's no way he's making these in such specifically funny ways if not on purpose, he must, like, make them so over the top as to get more attention or something.

  • edited 2012-02-10 18:29:32
    I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.

    No, Dees is completely, totally, legitimately, completely insane. He's amazingly talented with Photoshop, though, so it results in images that are almost unbelievable in how they combine the perfect amount of insanity with professionalism and "art". And if anybody wanted to know just how crazy the guy is:


    After being in Sweden for 7 years I was eligible to apply for permanent residence status, with such a promotion comes all the benefits of the Swedish system, and they are huge. Yes, the taxes are high here, but with that comes total support in every situation, nobody is lower class and poor here, it is a solid middle class society. Which, if you read history, kings and queens prefer to have only an upper class and a starving class, because the middle class is dangerous to their power. All that has been handled with a strict re-education system where schools here literally program the swedes to be content being quiet and middle class. Sad but true. I have been told some of the philosophy they drive into their heads every classroom, and now I know why the swedes are shy.

    But to my surprise they have answered my request for residence with a solid NO, and in fact are asking me to leave Sweden. Yikes. Immigration has agreed to assign me a free lawyer should I want to contest this, and the date for the court hearing is January 17th. The reason they gave for the rejection is they say that I do not earn enough money to live here. This after 7 years? See, I did even realize there was a limit I needed to meet, I struggle to make enough to pay my rent, bills, and taxes, and never really have anything left over to buy clothes or travel, but, at least I am surviving. I hope I can persuade them to keep me on, or extend my stay, because I am not planning to return to America and the monstrous troubles embroiled in my former country right now. So this is an interesting time, not so often in my life I get a letter that says I have to leave the country, that is a new one on me.



    One big thing that happened to me this year of 2010 was the frightening harassment I received a few months ago. My front door was being unlocked and opened a series of times, and even after changing the lock it was opened again and again. Then on a bicycle trip to town, my bike lock was unlocked and left in the basket.

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    But then, after three weeks, the harassment stopped completely. 


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    I had received a letter from an activist in Norway who asked me to see his protest videos on youtube to become familiar with his style of fighting the system. He was getting a lot of TV press coverage with his antics against the government policies, so we got on the phone and he said that he knew for sure that his phone was tapped, so I should just get used to that from now on, because mine was probably tapped too. 

    He went on to say that he had had to move to a new place four times to try and escape the harassment from the secret police, and that in the beginning they were opening his door the same as mine. He said, that is how they start, but if you continue then they will increase the pressure, by following you and confronting you and breaking things. He said that the one thing I was doing they are disagreeing with is the holocaust art, and he said that he was even using my holocaust investigation art on his website, because he too was highly vocal about the holocaust hoax. 

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    They have most everyone, including you reading this, convinced there is nothing to see about the holocaust and to just move on. I am one of the few people willing to buck the system, and bare the critizism and insults that come from opening up that can of zionist worms. I have a very big audience with open minds who will consider any investigation I do in a creative way, and to release it onto the internet, will, or would, be very very damaging. The internet art has a way of going virus and getting posted over and over, and duplicated for years, it can never be contained once it hits. Unless you threaten people. 

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    Same thing with the holocaust, but most are unwilling to study the event in depth.

    Anyway, I have to make a decision about the enemies I attack, because I certainly got a taste of what it is to followed and stalked, and it is no way to live. I am just sick that they can shut me up so easily. So easy for them, hire a pro to open my door a few times, very polite, just a direct warning. Nobody hurt. Not so easy for me.

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    Anyway, enough grief, let's talk about happy things.

    I am sitting in the hardest freezing winter experienced in Europe in a million years, and worse than that, I have three very bored cats



    that pace around looking for something to do. Normally they are out hunting and exploring for most the night, in the summertime they are only inside the house for a few hours to sleep and eat, then they are gone to who knows where. They almost become feral in the warm months. But with this snow and ice they prefer to sit inside, at least they have each other. 

    And I have them. 



    And Ocey now has Lava Lee! Last winter Ocey was so lonely, so I promised him in the summer I would get him a girlfriend from a nice litter of kittens, and sure enough I picked out a stunning striped beauty in Lava. It has been the greatest love story ever, 



    these two kiss and hug like I have never seen, so wonderful to watch the adoration, the wrestling, the fights, and the spats too. I am envious, wish I had a hot girlfriend like Ocey does. Well, if I suddenly got married here in Sweden that would solve my deportation situation, maybe on New Years Eve I will find the love of my life and pop the question... "Happy New Year Darlin', wanna get hitched?" 




    Now for something completely different...

    You may know that I was having alien contacts in 2009, with about 7 strange events of missing time and odd marks and bizarre situations that I can remember small parts of. They erase my memory cleanly, and on three of those occasions I was actually walking down the street when my time jumped forward 15 hours. 



    They literally edit out memory like we do a video. 

    What happened during those hours is a mystery to me, I get impressions, but no solid memory. So I once went to a hypnotist. I had one hypnosis session I paid for where it confirmed the alien visits, and I realized one hundred percent that it is all happening to me, and I am actually having ongoing alien contacts. However, in that session I did not get to the point in the event where I could see the faces of the aliens, as the memories are blocked in stages, walls that you can get through, but you really have to want to confront what you will see. Now I am more ready to look into this again. 

    I have had no contacts that I can remember in 2010, nothing at all. But then, I know they wake me up and have me go outside for the visit, then I come back home and fall asleep and they wipe out the memory. The fact that they allowed me to clearly have the experience of walking with total perception, then jump forward to the next day suddenly, was a way for them to wake me up to the fact I am having contacts. I think once they could see I knew with certainty it was true I am a contactee they went back to taking me during sleep. There is a pickup spot in the cemetery next door they I recovered the memory of in the hypnosis session, and I sometimes go there and ask them to come and get me again.

    So one of my decisions is to get back in with the hypnosis guy and uncover the missing time that has me so curious to what happened. And I will do that soon in the coming year. I know the Christians are all saying, it is just demons trying to trick you, aliens are the devil. Ok, whatever you want to believe. But for me, the sense I get is that they are extremely friendly and kind to me, and telling me about coming earth changes. Stay tuned on that.




    I keep getting questions about my book. My poor book. 

    The real problem was that I should have designed it myself, instead of depending on others to fix it the way I want it, all the problems of printing stemmed from getting the mechanics of it right, but I hate that sort of project. 

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    Yep, it is going to get a lot worse perhaps, but that will make for some wilder art. 


    Happy New Year, Darlin' !!!


    (from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3460628&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=79)

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