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"I would die for you." And variants

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  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    I'm not sure what's so unhealthy about caring about the other person so much that you would die for them.

    (This also basically makes more than a few deaths in my fiction are idiotic. Dammit.)
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Simply put, relationships are reciprocal. A good relationship has to have two partners who love each other and care for each other, but who also take care of themselves as well. Someone who doesn't mind his own self, even when the perso who they love cares for them is simply put, despicable.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    It's despicable to care for someone?

    Look, being willling to die for someone else is not "despicable" in the slightest. It's a proof of how much you are willing to put on the line to get the goal done.

    Also, does this still apply in worlds where the dead can become ghosts/can be easily contacted from the normal world?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    It's despicable to care for someone?

    No, but someone who loses sight of their own self, even when the person (or people) who they love cares for them is simply put, despicable.

    It's not the fact that you care about someone. It's the fact that you're doing nothing but harming the people you love by being selfless and romantic instead of taking care of yourself so you can take care of them.

    Also, does this still apply in worlds where the dead can become ghosts/can be easily contacted from the normal world?

    Eh, fiction has much more different trappings to real life. I can even admit a romantic sacrifice in a fiction work set in reality, because it's simple those. He sacrifices = eternal benefit. Real life? Not so much.
  • WaltzyWaltzy
    Hmm, I always thought of this as "if it came down to a split second decision where our lives were in the balance, I love you so much that I'd do anything to save you without worrying what happened to myself in the process".

    Like that it was demonstrative of instinct rather than a conscious thing.

    But something like instinct is best shown, not told.

    In spite of this, Rule of Romantic. It's just a sweet thing to say if the feelings behind it are pure and not the angsty "I'd die for you so kill me right now uguu~" brand.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Yeah, I mean in fictional circumstances.

    I particulary like the trope of "One character Heroically Sacrifices themself so the other characters can accomplish some kind of goal", so hearing that that is despicable (I'm a big fan of Heroic Deaths, and I don't find Honorable Suicude to be that bad in fiction)....kinda sets me off.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Oh, OK. Although again, I must emphasize that I consider those things to be a problem IRL. In fiction, where people's death doesn't really matter in the real world beyond an emotional impact, welp...

    Also, I like heroic sacrifices myself, a lot. Prolly why I like Superheroes myself.


    He died for your sins. ;_;
  • wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
    Harbinger of thread and forum death
    We will never forget
  • BobBob
    Juan, I know you're in Cuba, but damn, you're really reading too much into this.
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    Truefax: My girlfriend's jealous ex came at her with a knife. I pushed her out of the way and got stabbed in the shoulder.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    Who do you think you are, Scott Pilgrim?
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    Do I look like a crappy, pretentious comic to you?

    Don't answer that.
  • wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
    Harbinger of thread and forum death
    no
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    No, you look like a crappy, pretentious comic fan.

    /notseriousintheslightest
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    edited 2011-09-12 00:14:09
    Oyou!

    EDIT: I really didn't see that coming, Forzare. So kudos to you.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Aybss I almost died laughing.
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    Meh, there's no way to know what any of us would do in a life-or-death situation. I'd wager I'd die for someone out of low opinion of my own survival skills and years of delusional fantasies of lashing out at an abstract concept of oppression.
  • Scrye2Scrye2
    Electric Boogaloo
    ^You mean besides a life or death situation?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-09-14 23:20:43
    You can change. You can.
    Juan, I know you're in Cuba, but damn, you're really reading too much into this.

    I'm starting to wonder if I should add lol tags to everything i write

    (I do believe to a certain extent what I said, but I do understand the difference between "Lol I'm just saying this" and "I actually fully believe this")
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