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Xanadu Space

ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
edited 2011-09-03 00:09:42 in IJAM
OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
I already put this on Google+, but some of you aren't on it, and all of you need to see this.


In short, it's an alternative to modern word processing and hyperlinks to organize linked information.

A demo (looks older than the one in the video) can be found here.
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  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Conventional documents simulate paper.  WHY?  Computers should allow us  to improve on paper.

    So you can print them out.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    What do you need to do that for?
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    A variety of reasons. Paperwork, to create a hard copy in case of mehanical failure, resumes that need to be handed in in person, etc.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    When he started zooming through the pages in 3d, the first thing I thought of was this.


  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-09-03 00:18:04
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Why do any of those need to be handled through physical paper?

    And for that matter, is there anything to say you can't print a document from this program out?
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    Because they are. That's really it.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Because not everybody owns a computer, and not everybody wants to, so paperwork will always exist somewhat in physical form. Resumes that need to be handed in in person are usually looked over on the spot, so handing them a USB won't exactly help you in your case. And having a hard copy in case of mechanical failure is... pretty intrinsically linked to... having a hard copy in case of mechanical failure.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-09-03 00:21:32
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^That's not much of a reason to do something.

    And if you missed my edit:

    And for that matter, is there anything to say you can't print a document from this program out?

    And it wouldn't have to become the only thing humanity uses at all.

    As for backups in case of mechanical failure, mine are located on Dropbox's servers.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    And for that matter, is there anything to say you can't print a document from this program out?

    Well, I can't see the youtube videos, so i'm just going by what it says on the page.

    It says:

    XanaduSpace(tm) allows you to work with parallel documents-- pages connected side-by-side by many connections.  When you open the program you will see an eleven-page example to explore.  The foreground shows two connected pages in readable position.

    Which sounds very annoying to try to print out in physical form.

    What advantage does Xanadu offer over conventional forms, eh?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-09-03 00:24:50
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    The ability to interlink stuff in a more immediately readable fashion than a one-way hyperlink.

    And it would be very easy to print out; you'd just have eleven documents and the interlinkage stuff wouldn't be visible, just like if you printed out eleven Wikipedia articles.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    And for that matter, is there anything to say you can't print a document from this program out?


    It's a multidimensional document viewer, you can't print that out!
  • NovaNova
    edited 2011-09-03 00:25:37
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    From the sound of it, I'm not seeing anything more convenient than what a PDF offers with its' jump-to-page-X-immediately option.

    ^ Seriously >:|
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-09-03 00:25:43
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^You can print out the documents found in it, though. See my previous post.

    ^Nonlinearity.
  • NovaNova
    edited 2011-09-03 00:30:20
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Nonlinearity.

    And that's particularly desirable why?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Because you can interlink multiple documents, much like Wikipedia's structure, but less monodirectional.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    So... It gives you links to other pages and a 'back' button?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    No. It gives you a large number of interlinked documents, with the links between them graphically represented in the software, viewable all at once.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I'm just not seeing how this is advantageous at all.

    You'd achieve pretty much exactly the same thing in any document, linear or non-linear, by just providing links to other pages along the side.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    You couldn't have an overall view of how they're linked that way.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    I was instructed to post this link here.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I'm not seeing how that could be useful, really.

    Unless you're planning on writing your own private wiki.
  • EternalSunsetEternalSunset
    No Coleridge, therefore this thread is dead to me.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    Cygan: When you reach a part, it can expand it in context beside the page, making quotes easier

    Also, imagine how it could be used for stories. You can have data on a character appeear or, with a video, see another view point without losing your spot, etc.

    This is quite ingenious and I look forward to using it
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Cygan: When you reach a part, it can expand it in context beside the page, making quotes easier

    Also, imagine how it could be used for stories. You can have data on a character appeear or, with a video, see another view point without losing your spot, etc.

    That is more helpful.

    So it would be like the taskbar of Windows 7 opening to a page in each document if you click something?

    It's still not very helpful if you're not reading it online though. At all.
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-09-03 01:29:00
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    Don't hold your breath. Project Xanadu is the oldest piece of vaporware in existence.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    ^^ Doesn't need to be online. Extra pages are in the back. The context can be kept on those and it will show that page beside the main one when you reach the expanding part
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Then say on a computer* instead. Only helps you if you're at a computer.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    ^... Well, uh, yeah. The whole point of it is that you can do stuff with a computer document that you can't with a paper one
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Yeah. But the thing is, we use it the way it is now so we can print out paper copies. Portable hard copies.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I don't think it intends to replace word processors everywhere so much as be a complement to them.

    Or at least, I wouldn't use that only. 

    and even then, I'm fairly sure you can choose just one of the things you intend to print. It doesn't look particularly impossible from the video.
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