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  • edited 2011-07-25 13:46:29
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^That's... kind of a lot to have in common with an FPS, you know. As in, the only two criteria for the genre.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Isn't the entire definition of the FPS genre "first person perspective. Oh, and guns?"
  • Oh right, I forgot, Hatter lives in bizarroworld that only occasionally and accidentally resembles the real world.

    Deus Ex is the prototype for the FPS-RPG hybrid that is the current fashion.  If genres are to be useful categories at all, Deus Ex is a hybrid.
  • edited 2011-07-25 13:48:10
    ^^^,^^ Well, to be an FPS, it also has to be an action game of some sort.

    Though Deus Ex is that as well, so... yeah.
  • Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    *Jetpack fizzles out* Well fuuuuuuuuuuuuu*splat*

    Anyway, saying Deus Ex isn't an FPS is like saying Metroid Prime isn't one because of the exploration aspect.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Really, I've always kinda seen video game genres as a very, very loose, poorly defined concept.
  • edited 2011-07-25 13:49:36
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    The only thing Prince of Persia had in common with platformers is that it had platforms in it. Oh, and jumping.

    ^Yes.
  • edited 2011-07-25 13:52:13
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    My wife tends to want to call every videogame an RPG because you are playing a role in a game... It's annoying as hell!
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^Isn't Candyland an RPG in that case?
  • Well... you don't play a role in every game.

    At least, I can't think of any particular role you play in, say, Tetris.  Other than the role of some person playing Tetris.
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

    Candyland, Clue, Monopoly

  • Edge: That's not what RPG means in this context any more than ambulances walk.  RPG basically refers to a specific form of statkeeping derived loosely from D&D.
  • edited 2011-07-25 13:59:37
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    I know what an RPG is. I've argue with her about it till she cried.
  • Glaives are better.

    I'll have you know that the fantasy world I live in resembles the real world quite well.

    Except in my world, the Star Wars prequels never happened, the Kennedy family never existed and the Matrix is a nice, self-contained film that didn't have any sequels.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    The Matrix still exists, so you still lose.
  • In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my 
    own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly, 
    sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are 
    homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that 
    Zelda is not an RPG. There is nothing that Shigeru "Shiggy" Miyamoto could 
    possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single 
    criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm 
    with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel/villain ratio is at or above standards, 
    and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with 
    impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended 
    to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), 
    though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being 
    RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.
  • The Matrix is only bad if you know it exists.

  • edited 2011-07-25 14:07:29
    Kichigai birthday!!
    ^^ Let me guess, Icycalm?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    IJBM: I didn't win Fallout or Neverwinter Nights 2 in the Steam Summer Camp sweepstakes.

    > Okay, well I am saying that, but here's the reason: Video games are an
    inherently interactive medium. Choices and the ability to change the
    story take advantage of the medium in order to tell a better, more
    immersive story. Any game that doesn't offer those sorts of options is
    only partially making use of the interactive medium.

    Well, looks like this thread is now about WRPGs anyway, so...here goes.

    You're right that videogames are an inherently interactive medium.  That said, being able to alter the course of a story does not necessarily mean that the story will be more immersive, and a story whose course is determined can easily be crafted to give the illusion (so long as you don't read walkthroughs) that you're in control of the story.

    ...and heck, you're never in control of the story anyway.  Even the best WRPGs have a limited number of possible outcomes.  You're just enjoying the illusion of choice anyway.
  • edited 2011-07-25 14:20:58
    000
    "Inkblot: Pretty much.  Actually, the majority of recent releases seem like they're desperately trying to be Deus Ex, with mixed success."

    I wish. The only similar games I can think of in terms of combat are Far Cry and the Crysis series.

    As for DE's "morality system", it really didn't matter that much if you played non-leathally or slaughtered everything. It only netted you a few different items and affected how Anna, Gunther, Paul, General Carter and yourself thought of you. In new games, the game encourages you to either be a saint or be a monster, since the best loot only comes from acting in extremes. It's unrealistic, hurts the game's narrative and ruins the game's attempt to show the player something about themselves.

    Myr: wat
  • Hey, B:SUAJG save pump.
  • edited 2011-07-25 14:31:58
    000
    Buffy: Special Unit American Justice Group?
  • Barkley: Shut Up and Jam Gaiden.

    Apparently.
  • I never thought I'd 
    see such blatant trolling as I have in this forum. Step away from the computer, 
    drop the ham sandwich and back the FRACK off, gaijin. I hate to use that word 
    but you've made me that serious. As hard as it may be for you to fathom, some of 
    us here are actual fans of the Final Fantasy series (pre FFX) and Square's work 
    in general. You can try to bash me for an avatar that I bought because I happen 
    to be a dedicated fan of perhaps the most poignant, painstakingly woven tapestry 
    of love, loss and vengeance ever to be put from pen to paper, but you would 
    fail, just like all of you flamers do in real life. Who can say that the minds 
    at Square Enix (note: appropriate portmanteau is SQUENIX, not the laughable 
    SQUEENIX) were not inspired by the works of William Shakespeare or Chuck 
    Palahniuk? Cloud's bastard sword has more akin with the bastard sons of Macbeth 
    than it does any armament of basilard of the time. The Honey Bee Club in Midgar 
    reminds me more of the Fight Clubs than any brothel. So please, use your brains, 
    not your sarcasm, and step up to the intellectual plate, or leave this forum and 
    take your "haterade" with you.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > complaining about "SQUEENIX"

    SQuarE ENIX
  • Where are you getting these, Myrm?
  • Barkley: Shut Up And Jam Gaiden.
  • edited 2011-07-25 14:45:50
    000
    Myr, I don't know if you're trying to indirectly make fun of this thread, and I don't know if I want to strangle you or whoever actually made those posts.
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

    Is he just getting copypasta from somewhere? What the hell happened?

  • edited 2011-07-25 14:50:02
    It should be no surprise to my more-informed viewers that the topic of my discussions would eventually fall to the well-established artform of eroge (known to laymen as "hentai vidcons", though this is a false moniker as the vidcons deal with far more than mere hentai). Much-beloved in the East, these games are sadly, and one might even say expectedly, decried in the West as bastions of perversion and pedophilia for portraying extremely young girls in erotic situations. A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute? Despite the obvious flaws in the anti-eroge constituency, they continue to claim that eroge are sad, cartoon versions of sex for manchildren that promote rape, pedophilia, and abuse towards women. The logic used seems quite silly, because then people who enjoy killing or raping in games would be classified as murderers/rapists in real life. Come on. It's a fantasy, it's inside your head. Get educated. I recommend Kana: Little Sister, Rape Academy 2, or Crescendo to start with.
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