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How magic is portrayed as working.

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  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    You attempted to patronize me and then snarked at me a post later. I don't really associate that with someone who's in a good mood.



    But I do that to everyone


    really, i do


    even ask juan

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    I think I had this conversation with Everest before. About Madoka. I think.

  • edited 2012-02-14 21:51:07
    You can change. You can.

    --eats cookie--


    ETA: Yes. But to be honest, while I know you're jesting and I don't mind it, I can see why it'd bother him.

  • edited 2012-02-14 21:53:33
    Has friends besides tanks now

    I think I had this conversation with Everest before. About Madoka. I think.



    Indeed. That's where I got the idea to make the reference to my "axioms" being different from the others, and it helped me to realize that I value plot more than characters (generally).



    But I do that to everyone


    really, i do


    even ask juan



    I know. No offense, but it makes it really, really hard to tell when you're in a good mood.

  • edited 2012-02-14 21:53:33
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I know. No offense, but it makes it really, really hard to tell when you're in a good mood.



    Why are people making assumptions about my mood, is what I wanna know.


    is my good mood really that important to everyone


    i mean, im flattered and all, but


    (Also, I didn't start swearing in a non-jokey way. That's usually the easiest way to tell. That and my posts aren't half a page long yet. Well, that would be a full page on this forum as the page is so narrow.)

  • You can change. You can.

    Because bad moods lead to bad discussions.

  • edited 2012-02-14 21:54:46
    Has friends besides tanks now

    Why are people making assumptions about my mood, is what I wanna know.



    My bad for assuming you weren't in a good mood, but it honestly seemed like you weren't, especially with the part about the headache.



    is my good mood really that important to everyone



    What Juan said.

  • edited 2012-02-14 22:05:15
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Because bad moods lead to bad discussions.



    i know


    although i have had lots of discussions with everyone while im in a bad mood and people dont even notice


    im talking in lowcaps that should let you know im not even being serious.



    My bad for assuming you weren't in a good mood, but it honestly seemed like you weren't, especially with the part about the headache.



    I wouldn't say I'm in a good mood, but I'm not in a bad mood. Also, derail lol. My fault for the derail, I apologize.

  • Has friends besides tanks now

    -reflects on the thread-


    Well, that was something.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    >Death Note


    I think the characters of Light and L are actually at very least compelling (if not actually good) characters as their many fans would attest.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Well, that was something.



    but it was not quite drama!



    I think the characters of Light and L are actually at very least compelling (if not actually good) characters as their many fans would attest.



    if the rabid shipping means anything

  • You can change. You can.

    I can't argue against L, but Light's kind of...lacking in many regards. His plans and schemes are interesting, but his motivation's pretty much bullshit from the get-go and his treatment of the rest of the cast's really uninteresting (I'LL BE AS SMUG AND HAMMY AS I CAN BE FUCK YOU)

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Light's an interesting case of someone with smarts and charisma, but the lack of a moral compass to use it with

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Even Misa?


    As for Light, I'm not going to say he's really all that detailed a character and his decision to go bonkers and kill people is pretty weak. Still his (necessary)  paranoia and violent mood swings do make for a memorable character.

  • edited 2012-02-14 22:21:39
    Has friends besides tanks now

    I'd comment, but I feel like I'd inadvertently drag myself into another debate, and fuck that, it's 11:20 PM and I've already been doing this for two hours.

  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-02-14 22:28:21

    Hell, take My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.


    I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who says they watch it for the plot



    ...Unfortunate choice of words given the example :P

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    How so?

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    I think he's referring to the macro with all the ass-shots that says 'I watch it for the plot'.

  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-02-14 22:28:13

    Yeah, the internet being what it is, "plot" became a euphemism for pony ass.


    Anyway, yeah, characters are considerably more important than the story itself.  IMO though, they're also the more difficult part to write by a longshot, so there's really no reason to have good characters and an ass-backwards storyline.

  • You can change. You can.

    Even Misa?



    Exception that proves the rule.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I think he's referring to the macro with all the ass-shots that says 'I watch it for the plot'.



    I remember those. I wish I didn't.



    Anyway, yeah, characters are considerably more important than the story itself.



    Note that one of the biggest complains about harem anime is that their leads are boring.

  • BeeBee
    edited 2012-02-14 22:33:41

    And disaster movies, horror flicks, slashers, romantic comedies, sitcoms, and harem slasher anime sitcoms set during disasters.

  • You can change. You can.

    harem slasher anime sitcoms set during disasters.



    how can you complain about a gift from god himself

  • Do any of those exist?


    Higurashi, maybe, but that was ruined by being Higurashi.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    You know what I realized a few months ago about Smallville?


    Unlikable, ineffectual protagonist. Plenty of women inexplicably in love with him. Lots of borderline-creepy fanservice, plot only serves to further awkward romantic entanglement bullshit.


    It's totally a harem anime.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Just like Ranma, except without hints of lesbianism due to being a girl half the time.

  • You can change. You can.

    Do any of those exist?


    Higurashi, maybe, but that was ruined by being Higurashi.



    oh snap, forzare. 

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    I find the argument of magical progression being tied to the spirituality or spiritual progression of the characters very compelling. 


    Unfortunately, something like a video game has to deal with its media limitations. While something like this could be done -- attributes that rise and fall based on the character's goals, drives and state of mind -- it would still fall far short of the narrative relevance of magic in literature. 

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    I can see how Ranma is unlikeable, but inneffective?

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I wasn't being serious.

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