I distrust irony

DonZabu

That is, whenever I see a statement that tries to point towards something hypocritical or ironic or self-fulfilling, I assume it's bullshit unless it holds up to extreme scrutiny. Examples include "he hates gays, he must be gay himself" or "check out the comments for this article, it proves the author's point completely".

I think people in general are too eager to find this sort of thing is why.

Malkavian

That's not irony.

That's strawmanning.

DonZabu

^ Can't it be both? That is, irony being used as a strawman?

Malkavian

It can be, but that's not what the examples you put forth are.

Irony and Strawmanning combined would be more akin to what Stephen Colbert does.

DonZabu

I mean Party A pointing out something supposedly ironic or hypocritical in Party B's sayings or doings, not Party A using irony themselves.

Icalasari

I'd post the images themselves but bleh phone