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So Congress is out of session

RaddRadd
edited 2012-01-02 16:08:28 in General
Too bad, I wanted to see SOPA pass. Oh well.
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  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2012-01-02 16:09:29
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    Wait, WHAT?

    Why?
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    hahaha oh u
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Not sure if joking, trolling, or actually hates the first amendment...
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > Congress

    laughtrack.wav
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    Huh?
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    Perhaps to set an example of a law that's never going to work in practice? Maybe as a punishment for the passivity of the current generation? Or because OP enjoys shitstorms?
  • BeeBee
  • RaddRadd
    Is it my fault that I want copyrights to be respected?
  • DYREDYRE
    Well, yes, if that's your idea of respecting copyright.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    There's a difference between respecting copyright, and the whole government getting angry like a little kid and taking the ball home.

    (the ball in this metaphor is the Internet)
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I'd agree with you, if the law punished the people disrespecting copyright, rather than punishing the place where they were standing when they did it.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    Not to mention that wording of the law is so broad that it would mean the end of things like Let's Plays, and harshly punish stuff as innocuous as posting screenshots.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2012-01-02 17:04:04
    Has friends besides tanks now
    So, what are the odds of this bill passing, do you guys think?
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    It's not your fault as much as it is the fault of capitalist rhetoric of big corporations brainwashing you into having said opinion. Information wants to be free, yo.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2012-01-02 17:11:10
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    ^^From what I heard, pretty high, even with the massive public backlash.

    My hope is that it'll get struck down by the Supreme Court if it gets passed.
  • RaddRadd
    edited 2012-01-02 17:20:02
    Whoops, I thought it was too late for the bill to be passed anymore. Didn't mean to troll when it being passed was still a possibility.

    It's not your fault as much as it is the fault of capitalist rhetoric of big corporations brainwashing you into having said opinion. Information wants to be free, yo.

    Silicon valley does the same thing but against the bill.
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    Yes, but they are in a chokehold by worker's unions. Information sharing is the first step on the way to a communist utopia.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2012-01-02 20:14:57
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Wait how did we get derailed into economic philosophy

    anyway

    @Radd: Most people want copyrights to be respected.  However, SOPA/PIPA is not the way to do it.  SOPA/PIPA would actually leave pirates mostly unscathed while severely stifling the creative output of content creators, by making it much harder for new content to be promoted.

    That, incidentally, is why the major media conglomerates support it--their stuff does not need to be promoted for it to continue to be successful, while new competition against their offerings is hindered.
  • BeeBee
    Not to mention the way they're planning to do it undermines DNS security.  That alone should've shot the damn thing down on day one.
  • CountryPumpkinCountryPumpkin
    edited 2012-01-02 22:31:45
    I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.
    While I may be a liberal, this is one thing I'll be stagnant and conservative. Don't touch my Internet! 
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Oh my god I'm stealing that emoticon.

    And wouldn't supporting the censorship thing be conservative, not liberal?
  • CountryPumpkinCountryPumpkin
    edited 2012-01-02 22:36:56
    I clench my fists and yell "anime" towards an uncaring, absent God, and swear solemnly to press my thumbs into Chocolate America's eyeballs until he is blinded, to directly emasculate sporting figures, to beat the shit out of tumblr users with baseball bats, and to quietly appreciate what Waylon Smithers being gay means to me.
    I have a magical land of emoticons for you, Forzare. (Just don't leech them. Use Imgur® for your macro-sharing needs!) e: It would help if I put the link here

    And I guess I'm using the purely classical terms of liberal and conservative here, in that "conservative" means "resistant to change." But yes, neocons support this bill because it is in favor of large corporations. 


  • ninjaclownninjaclown
    Say, I have this friend who may think this is a good idea (I haven't asked him yet so I wouldn't know) because of the argument it allows publishers have their copyrights respected. I'll need valid counter-arguments if I'm going to debate him on this if you guys can provide any.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^It provides no punishment to the people disrespecting the copyright, instead shutting down any site where they go to post or link to copyrighted content.

    And because of this, it's basically a way for anyone to shut down any site they don't like.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    @ninjaclown: I wrote up a draft of several arguments here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13196849890A49260100&page=38#947

    I plan on using this to pester Joe Lieberman('s staff) and Dick Blumenthal('s staff) when they(ir staff) return from vacation (are available during the regular season).
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    I'm a neocon, and I and all of my neocon friends are firmly against this sort of thing.

    We're against most regulations, remember? Free market, but with big guns?
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    >2012
    >thinking GOP is for small government.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    They're on the left end of the Keynes-Hayek spectrum, but they're still firmly anti-regulation, at least in theory.
  • WhaleWhale
    Champion of the Whales
    Won't SOPA create more tension between the United States and the European Union?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2012-01-03 12:38:33
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Actually, calling the Republicans "anti-regulation" is much more accurate than saying that they support a free market.

    They're just anti-regulation; they're fine with subsidies.  Why?  Because regulations make people less happy in the short run, while subsidies make them more happy in the short run.
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