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Dead Island: Rated M for Mature...yet...

glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
edited 2011-12-18 17:13:45 in Media
Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
According to Dead lsland's trailer, G4TV commented that this game provides "A More Refined Zombie-Slaying Experience".

Sure.  Very mature.
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  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-18 17:34:09
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    >Games Journalism

    Found the problem.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I don't see how killing zombies makes a game less mature.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    It's not so much the zombie killing as the fact that there's not really much else to say about the game.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-12-18 18:02:08
    Pro tip:  A game being rated "Mature" does not mean that the ESRB thinks a game is actually "mature," in much the same way that a game rated "Teen" is not actually supposed to be >=13 years old (as, you know, the game presumably is 0 years old at the time it's being rated).
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-18 18:03:13
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    >=13
    Why can't I not perceive this as an emoticon with a moustache?

    More ontopic, I'd assume it's more a comment on the ratings terminology.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-12-18 18:10:42

    Still, it's a pretty silly thing to complain about.

    It's "mature" because there really isn't a better way to refer to people who are more, well, mature (in terms of being able to handle being exposed to certain types of content) than teenagers, without saying "adult" (as that has the connotation of pornography, which is also likely why the age rating for M is only 17+ as opposed to 18+).

  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    @INUH: I actually didn't think about that angle; I was just complaining about the content, how it doesn't really have anything mature other than blood and gore all over the place and stereotypically disturbing imagery.

    But you have a good point.

    Also, bikini babes, bikini babes shooting zombies, and bikini babe zombies themselves.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-18 18:18:13
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^There is an 18+ rating. All major retailers refuse to carry it, so on the rare, rare occasion when a game that isn't porn gets it, they just re-do it.

    ^Well, you can say that about 90-99% of M-Rated games. This one's just particularly hard-hit.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    It's saying that the player should be mature before they play it, not that the game itself is particularly mature.

    Like how you wouldn't show a little kid South Park.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    edited 2011-12-18 19:06:45
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    I don't know about you guys, but I thought Dead Island was pretty horrible. Choosing MMO mechanics, of all RPG mechanic options, for one's FPS game was a pretty backwards choice. Besides, playing the game made me angry at the arrogance of that reverse-time slowmo trailer, which is entirely pretentious in light of the game's lack of developed plot or characters.

    Somehow, I think the pop cultural zombie craze hit something of a low with this game. The concept is fine, mind -- you and other survivors are trapped on an island resort with zombies. Survive. But the mechanics didn't support any kind of horror or tension. Call me crazy, but I think that concept could be run straight down the lane like a survival horror game. In fact, a multiplayer survival horror with RPG elements and crafting sounds like it coud be a blast. What we got, however, was a standard FPS with popular MMO mechanics slapped on. Kind of like Borderlands, which was worth a playthrough but unremarkable.

    In any case, based on the pop cultural zombie craze revival's beginnings as campy fun meets hipsterish pleas to be considered endearing, I propose a further mutation: fantastic undead apocalypse, mythological style. Zombies are animated by necromantic magic; other corpses move of their own will, retaining intelligence for no discernable reason. Ghosts infect complex technology. Liches awaken from centuries-long slumber. It is no longer good enough to shoot things down; now you have to ride your motorcycle off the top of a skyscraper and hit the zombie dragon with a grenade-tipped lance.

    The thing about silliness is that it doesn't hold up well when some degree of silliness has become standard within a certain context. Anta must go full baka.

    ... not that this had anything to do with the thread. <_<
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-18 19:15:29
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^Yeah, from the bit I saw my roommate play, the game looked like its best bits were on par with other games' meh bits.

    And your proposal sounds awesome.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Your roommate, from the sound of it, seems to be a big-time Steam gamer.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Steam. Yes. That's where he gets them >.>
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I never actually played Dead Island.

    Also that sounds awesome.
  • DYREDYRE

    But the mechanics didn't support any kind of horror or tension.

    Zombies in general barely are able to support horror or tension.  Realistically, there is absolutely nothing threatening about zombies which is one of the main reasons the characters in zombie movies have a tendency to be extraordinarily dumb.  Because that's the only way zombies could ever be a threat.

    Anyway, Dead Island seemed kind of fun from what I've played of it, but... it was an FPS and it is about zombies, so it's more or less impossible for me to actually like it.

  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    You guys ever play Borderlands? Dead Island is supposed to be that with zombies. A co-op lootfest romp through an undead infested area, not some serious (I use that term lightly) take on the genre.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Borderlands was fun though.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-12-18 20:26:42
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Yeah, I had fun with Borderlands.

    I doubt Dead Island has shotguns that shoot flaming rockets, though, so there's that.
  • DYREDYRE
    Of course, shotguns that shoot flaming rockets don't actually make a game any better, so there's that too...
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Of course, shotguns that shoot flaming rockets don't actually make a game any better, so there's that too...

    They make it more appealing to some people. --shrug--
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    (For the record, I think I ought to clarify that I don't own, have not played, and don't plan to buy, this game.)
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Eh, if I'm playing a somewhat mindless shooter, cool or satisfying guns is a big part of my enjoyment.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-19 10:42:25
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Also, the game included a now-renamed skill called "feminist whore," which lets a female character do more damage to male enemies.

    So...not a game I'm a fan of.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^
    Classy :s
  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2011-12-19 10:46:06
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    ^^That was never supposed to be in the game. It was a developer in-joke that got into the final release. They fired the guy who put it in after it was found out.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^I'm aware. In other words, they thought it was funny, and are only apologetic because people found out about it.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Wait, that was in Dead Island?

    Well, looks like I'm even more not going to buy it then.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2011-12-19 10:52:02
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    No it was more like a few guys thought it was funny and it somehow snuck by everyone else until it was too late. I'm not apologizing for the guys who did it but false conclusions are false conclusions.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-19 11:01:57
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    It would have been displayed in plain text in the talent tree or whatever it's called for the entire testing process. If anyone objected to it, it would have been changed far before shipping time.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    Looking into it more, apparently they knew about it pretty early on and it was left in some inaccessible code in release.

    Yeah, I take back what I said.
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