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Why the hell do people even vote Republican in the first place?

edited 2011-03-13 14:36:29 in Philosophy
Morgan Freeman is God
Seriously, if you put in any amount of thought into your vote, you'll realize that they are either corrupt or extremely misguided. Why the hell would anyone vote for someone who promises to make things better for the rich while stealing from the poor? Or for someone who oppressively prohibits abortions and gay marriage simply because some book of make-believe tells them to?
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  • edited 2011-03-13 19:56:15
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  • edited 2011-03-13 14:40:13
    Morgan Freeman is God
    Maybe, but I think that people who vote that way are either wrong about how the world works, or very, very rich.
  • Be ready to call the firemen, because all the straw here might catch on fire.
  • Morgan Freeman is God
    It's hard not to strawman when you can't even comprehend the opposing side because it's so misguided.
  • edited 2011-03-13 19:56:10
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  • Silence is golden.

    "Because they've looked at the facts and have determined that Republicans fit their politics better than the other party that has a chance at winning?"


    That's presumptuous!

  • See, Funny, this is why I don't like antitheists much.
  • edited 2011-03-13 19:56:03
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  • edited 2011-03-13 14:48:37
    One person in the internet?

    quote the context Chagen, otherwise, I have more of a right to be victimized than you ever will.
    He's pretty obviously talking about the last part of the first post.
  • edited 2011-03-13 19:55:59
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  • Morgan Freeman is God
    As for making things better for the rich, I'm talking about the Bush-era tax cuts to the wealthy. Rich people should be taxed more.

    "Oppressively prohibits" means making it illegal or really hard to have gay marriages or abortions without moving to another state. People shouldn't have to move to another state to get married or have an abortion.

    As for people who have ethical issues with abortion, they really shouldn't. Embryos don't have much in the way of conscious thought yet, and women shouldn't be forced to go through the pain of childbirth if they don't want to. If it's an early abortion, it should be allowed, no questions asked.

    Homophobes are just bigots, plain and simple. Their belief that gay people shouldn't marry is just like the KKK's old belief that black people shouldn't vote. Bigots should not be tolerated in our culture.
  • See, Funny, this is why I don't like antitheists much.

    Are you actually interested in debating, or is this just a passive aggressive statement?
  • edited 2011-03-13 14:55:00
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Re thread topic: Because forced memes.  About commies, socialists, godless atheists, and welfare queens.
  • edited 2011-03-13 19:55:53
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  • Because they think the Republican party will serve their interests better than the Democrats.
  • No rainbow star
    "As for making things better for the rich, I'm talking about the Bush-era tax cuts to the wealthy. Rich people should be taxed more."

    Erm, or maybe everybody could get a flat tax rate? The rich are still giving more that way, but come on, taxing the rich just for being rich is ridiculous
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Seriously, if you put in any amount of thought into your vote, you'll realize that they are either corrupt

    Wait, are you trying to tell me that there's a single important politician in this country who isn't corrupt?
  • Because you never know what you might see.
    What is it with people having opinions, man?  WHY CAN'T THEY ALL THINK THE SAME AS ME???

    My flatmate called me evil today because I wasn't liberal enough.
  • European liberal or North American liberal?
  • Because you never know what you might see.
    Liberal as in left.

    Left as in antitheistic and here to take your guns away.
  • You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Never got you Euro's and you hate-on for self-defense.

    [I don't actually have a gun]
     

  • Because you never know what you might see.
    Hey!  This European isn't opposed to self-defence! >:(
  • Yet you want to take people's guns away?

    Say what you want, nothing deters a criminal like a double-barreled shotgun. 

    And the resulting hole in their body it creates.
  • Because you never know what you might see.
    Why do I even bother?

    Chagen, try reading next time.  Context.  Makes all the difference, beyotch.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Nah, shotguns are too impractical for use in the home. Stick with pistols for general use.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    "Erm, or maybe everybody could get a flat tax rate? The rich are still
    giving more that way, but come on, taxing the rich just for being rich
    is ridiculous"

    The reason for doing this is because the cost of living does not go up with one's income.  In fact, you need less and less of your money to live on, the more money you make.  Someone making $30K a year is probably going to spend pretty much all 'eir $30K just to get by, while someone making $300K a year might be spending only about $70K a year for somewhat better living conditions.

    In other words, the more money you have, the less of it (as a fraction) you need.  Even if you're talking about living more affluently.

    Taxing the person who makes $300K makes far more sense than taxing the person who makes $30K, because the latter person might need social safety nets to keep 'em afloat financially if you take away any more of their income, but the person making $300K can afford to, say, buy a Wii instead of a PS3 for eir kid's birthday.

    Now why can't the $300K person just give another $70K a year to the $30K person?  Well, some rich people do that, but charitable donations are just not enough to sustain a society.  Not to mention, for various societal structures you really need group coordination to make something happen--such as to hire, train, and equip a force of public safety personnel, and to establish rules by which they work.

    By they way, those rules are called laws.  And those trained and equipped public safety personnel are called police.  And this group coordination is called government.

    > guns

    I wouldn't mind having a pistol at home.  Or heck, on my person even.

    Rifles, however, are impractical for actual self-defense.  And for what it's worth, the 2nd Amendment never specified the type of weapon.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ^ Oh by the way, will conservatives stop hating on "government" already?
  •  "but the person making $300K can afford to, say, buy a Wii instead of a PS3 for eir kid's birthday."

    And why must they have to make a decision like that if they earned their money?

    They worked for that money. Let them spend it on whatever the fuck they want. 
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Because they live in this society.

    Society affords them a lot of benefits.  Such as the legal structure in which to do business and earn money, for one.
  • So they work for society....which then sucks all their money away?

    I don't see that working very well.
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