I can't get this copy of Chaos;Head to work.

Chagen

Yui: You're a virgin, so it's not like you can do it with a boyfriend or anything.

Risa: WHAT!? H-HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT!?

Yui: Your smell. Virgins and women smell different.

ಠ_ಠ

DYRE

Yeah... that part was weird.

The game has something of an obsession with pheromones, it seems, from what I've played of it.  To the point where it says things like, well, that.

Chagen

Animals do do a lot of things with pheromones. So do humans, apparently.

[wmghatguy] Yuii is actually an "Anthropoid Animal" and doesn't know it.

ClockworkUniverse

While we're talking about VNs and Eroge, I suppose I should take the opportunity to mention that none of my many VN ideas that I'm working on would be an eroge. Heck, none of them even has a strong focus on romance.

Chagen

I had an idea for a parody eroge.

Basically, the main character accidently gets put into a VN (not sure how yet), and instead of taking advantage of all the girls, he decides to completely fuck with the world (since knowing it's a game allows him to warp it to his will).

And by fuck the world, I mean he Crosses The Line About 700 Billion Times. The entire point is that he's a blatant Complete Monster Villian Protagonist, but he does things in such a ridiculous and over-the-top manner, it ends up being funny instead of horrific.

DYRE

^^^ Well, it's true that humans produce and react to pheromones.  Though, it's somewhat bizarre that Wanko To Kurasou focuses on them to the extent that it does.  (Also, the emote is [wmg])

^^ That's... more or less what I expected from you.

ClockworkUniverse

^Yeah, it's pretty characteristic of me.

DYRE

I briefly considered making a VN (other than the KHSWO one, I mean...), and I suppose that wouldn't have been an eroge.  Though it would have still largely been about romance.

In any case, I changed my mind about it when I remembered that I am a horrible writer and also lazy.

ClockworkUniverse

Well, I don't really have anything else I want to do with my life, so I'm going with that plan, I guess.

Chagen

My eroge ideas are hampered by my inability to draw.

Also making 20 storylines--ten girls, ten boys--would be hell. Especially since I wanted them to interconnect a lot more--they would actually reference each other and the story would dramatically change depending on your choices.

DYRE

^^ Well, fair enough.  And certainly better than what I'm doing.  That is, nothing.  I do wish I could at least try to do something of that sort but I tend to lose interest in things very quickly after starting, plus I get frustrated when I can't do something well without practice, so as you can imagine that makes it hard to get anywhere with any sort of creative projects.

Being an uncreative person in general doesn't help things either.

^ Well, if drawing was really the only thing stopping you, then you could just write it first, and once you have a sizable chunk written (like, nearly all of it probably), you could try to see if anyone will do the art for you, though of course finding people to do art for a big project for free is... difficult.

Chagen

And now Yuui just told Risa to whore herself out.

My god, this guy is like a real-life troll.

And again with the pheromones? Seriously?

ClockworkUniverse

RE: drawing ability: I've been trying to learn, but all I've got to show for it is a single decent eye I've been unable to replicate and four pages of unpresentable scribbling.

Sadly, the scribbling came after the decent drawing.

Chagen

So is this the general VN thread now?

ClockworkUniverse

Sure, why not?

Chagen

Yay!

I made a thread that derailed into a general thread about a topic!

I got nerd cred now, aw shit yeah.

DYRE

RE:RE:Drawing ability:  I thought I used to be good at drawing, but I just looked at my AP Art portfolio from last year because I was going to brag about being good at drawing, and I kind of think it sucks.

I guess that's normal for a person to not like their own artwork, but I mean... it's not like it's because I've been getting better, since I haven't drawn anything in almost a year...

ClockworkUniverse

I'm kind of like that with piano. Back in middle school, one of my teachers told me he expected me to go to college on a piano scholarship. I quit during highschool, and now that I want to start again, I suck.

DYRE

Yeah, for a while in high school I actually wanted to be an art major (not sure specifically what my major would be though, though it'd probably either be Drawing or Illustration), but like I never really took art very seriously (I was good enough to get a 3 on the AP Studio Art thing, but... that really isn't that great.  I did like half of my portfolio in one week...) so I never really got as good as I really should have and I sort of started losing interest in it, and I ended up deciding to become a Mathematics major instead.

But, like, I kind of still want to draw stuff, but... I'm not terribly good.  (at any rate, I'm absolute shit at drawing things that I'm not actually looking at)  So that's discouraging.

ClockworkUniverse

I'm sort of an art major-ish thing. My major is a Computer Science/Art hybrid.

DYRE

Yeah, I think I remember you saying that before.

Not that this is the same thing, but I was reminded of it, one of my friends is actually majoring in both Computer Science and Fine Arts.  I have no idea how that works either.

ClockworkUniverse

Diverse interests, I guess.

I actually might double-major in that and Japanese, since I'm planning on taking all the prerequisite courses for the latter anyway.

DYRE

Well it's more like, I have no idea how he expects to be able to take all the classes he has to for both of them.  Apparently, it'll take like 7 years to complete both of those majors.  Which is... a lot of years.

Though perhaps that's to be expected.

I dunno.  One major is enough for me...

Haha!  I've derailed the thread away from general VN discussion! (mostly because I have basically no VN experience)

ClockworkUniverse

My school is known for it not being unusual to take 6-7 years to graduate anyway.

Anyway, back to VNs, I've found that I tend to write in bursts and then lose focus.

DYRE

-considers starting to make a VN just so that he'll be able to participate in this conversation-

Chagen

I think my exasperation at the time it takes to get to the porn of eroge's might be my first experience with them.

My first eroge was Cat Girl Alliance.

Which had a sex scene in the first two minutes.

Yeah. 

ClockworkUniverse

Honestly, when I got to the first sex scene in Saya no Uta, my reaction was "what? Already? Really? And the plot was so good up to this point, too..."

Chagen

CGA didn't take itself that seriously though.

I will agree that Saya No Uta's first sex scene came completely out of left field, though.

And now I will more nightmares about it. Fuck. SnU was one fucked-up VN, I could not sleep at all after finishing it.

I've never replayed it, ever, it was that damn scary.

DYRE

^^^ Well, realistically, if a game's going to be completely a porn game, they might as well not waste time getting to the porn.  So, it's understandable that you're annoyed by Wanko To Kurasou.

I promise that if I were to make a porn game, there would at least be some kind of indication of its porniness within probably the very first scene.

Chagen

CGA was hilarious. It started with the main character borignly reminiscing about his school life. He then went to the nurse's office.

Where he found his futanari cat-girl friend fucking her pig-tailed servant in the ass. 

And instead of, you know, gfto'ing the hell out of there, he apparently thinks that jerking off to it is a good idea.