The "TV Tropes vs. Wikipedia" dichotomy

DYRE

^^,^ It seems like that's pretty much covered on the main page though, is it not?

I mean "We are not Wikipedia. We're a buttload more informal. We encourage breezy language and original thought. There Is No Such Thing As Notability, and no citations are needed." should be more than enough to tell people that, well, TV Tropes isn't Wikipedia and that it allows original research and doesn't require citations.

ClockworkUniverse

^It's surprisingly common for people not to pay much attention to (or even see) the home page. Get linked to a page, click around a bit, decide to edit...

DYRE

I guess so.

And unfortunately, just having something in the page editing... page... that tells people to actually read the guidelines and whatnot before editing would not really help at all.

Since people continually demonstrate that they never actually read anything they're told to.  Ever.

Though I'm not sure how someone would end up on, of all things, the Citation Needed page before they see the home page.

Tnophelia

So what importance would incorporating citation needed into the wiki provide?

DYRE

Nothing.

I'm not saying that TV Tropes should require citations.  I'm saying TV Tropes shouldn't have a page that exists specifically to say that TV Tropes is somehow better than Wikipedia for not having such a policy, despite the two sites being completely different, with totally different goals.  It almost makes it sound like tropers don't know that Wikipedia is actually supposed to be, you know, an encyclopedia.

Anonus

Eddie himself says he hates it.

Also, I remember reading something about a "Wikipedia vs. TV Tropes war" on there. I have always thought "the fuck, Wikipedia has better things to do than wage "war" on other sites just because they don't 100% like them".

RedEyedAbyss

Like skullfuck vandals.

Though you've just gave me the mental image of Wikipedia being Napoleonic France against the rest of Europe.

Central Avenue

I wonder how old that comment from Eddie is.

DYRE

Entries there are driven toward this Jack-Webb-just-the-facts-ma'am sort of ... pablum.

No spice. No opinions. A whole lot of "No!". I hope we never get like that.

So... it's Fast Eddie who doesn't know what "encyclopedia" means?

Well, that explains a lot I guess...

DonZabu

And yet the man is slowly but surely turning TV Tropes into a just-the-facts sort of place all for the sake of a futile attempt at keeping the peace/keeping up his unrealistic positivity ideal.

This would make for a great Citizen Kane-type movie.

Central Avenue

Also, I like Jack Webb, thank you very much.

Tnophelia

Wow.

This thread is sure filled with misguided opinions...

ClockworkUniverse

-facepalms-

Leaving the thread.

Bob

I don't get it.

Tnophelia

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