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"I have a right to threaten bodily harm against you".

ChagenChagen
edited 2011-09-03 12:33:45 in Meatspace
[tɕagɛn]
My mom just said this to me. She actually believes this is perfectly normal for parents to do.

Comments

  • RaddRadd
    The best way to determine somebody's future actions is through their past actions, just sayin.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    IN other words, this isn't surprising any of us.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Just for the record: the thing she threatened to do was choke me for talking to her in a barely disrespectable tone.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    -shrug-
  • RaddRadd
    Still not surprising.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Has she ever followed on her threats?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    You know, if you carried a tape recorder around, you could probably get both of your parents arrested.
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    ^If you fear your parents that much Chagen, just take his advice. Make it discrete, and be prepared to fend for yourself and your tape recorder's life if they find out.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    God your parents are psychotic. I forgot about them since you were banned, so this startled me a bit
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    Just know that if you do get them arrested, you'll likely be put into foster care, which will probably be even worse.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Hey, Chagen, stop whining! Your mother has freedom of speech, you know!

    /troll
    //really follow INUH's advice
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    Would it be legal to tape record secretly and use it for evidence? I can't find anything conclusive about whether that's the case. 
  • BeeBee
    edited 2011-09-03 15:00:50
    As I recall, it only counts as entrapment if you provoke them into something or egg them on somehow.  Otherwise stings wouldn't happen.

    There's a lot of ambiguity with house rules though -- disobeying parents may or may not count as provocation, but outright child abuse is also a thing.  It's basically a mess.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    It applies in marriage.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2011-09-03 15:14:18
    It's a legal gray area to be sure.  To Catch a Predator avoided entrapment issues mostly on the grounds of the not quite approaching unreasonable baiting and targets having time to back out (i.e. not a snap decision), not on being a vigilante action.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass

    I'm pretty sure recording someone in this way would be admissible evidence, but then I'm not an American lawyer.


    If you are really worried your mother is going to be seriously violent to you, I would go to the police or social services anyway, recording or no recording. They're supposed to investigate this kind of complaint from young people. However, as people have said, there will be consequences for you if they do.

  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    And at the Foster Care warning: Yes, that is true, but that's no reason to discourage that course of action.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    On a lighter note, you could have called this thread - "Mom claims the right to remain violent". Sorry, the pun was too good to resist.
  • LegionnaireLegionnaire
    I absolutely hate parents who act like this.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    It's a legal gray area to be sure. To Catch a Predator avoided entrapment issues mostly on the grounds of the not quite approaching unreasonable baiting and targets having time to back out (i.e. not a snap decision), not on being a vigilante action.
    I was under the impression that they didn't always successfully avoid entrapment.
  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    Poot dispenser here
    I heard that several cases/arrests were thrown out because of that.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    I thought they were thrown out because the guys responsible refused to provide the complete chatlogs to the police.
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