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"pandering to otaku/weeaboos" and other related sayings

edited 2011-07-29 13:16:22 in Webspace
☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
I used this statement quite a lot without realizing how many things it has applied to, and how generally....stupid it is.

Even in reference to Lucky Star, which yes, the show does pander to otaku. It does this because that's the target audience, and a show that gives the audience exactly what they want and ask for, is a show the audience will enjoy.

It would be the same if somebody made a non-Micheal Bay Transformers movie that followed the shows but kept the advancement of technology and CGI, because the fans really wanted one. It would be the same thing as that, in some context.

In general after watching a super-massive shitstorm on the Minecraft forums about "moe anime" again, I realized that using the "panders to [insert demographic I don't like here]" leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I think there's a difference between 'works to appeal to' and 'panders to', though. Lucky Star is definitely the latter, and I like moe anime.
  • Lucky Star scares me. 
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    There's a difference between a work that contains elements that a certain audience is expected to like, and a work where such elements abound in such supply that they might seem shoehorned.
  • AHRAHR
    edited 2011-07-29 13:23:40
    Transformers appeals to the transformers fans and robot fans,  and panders to the people who like marijuana, boobs, and humping dog jokes?
  • You can change. You can.
    Ayup.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^^This has been my contention.
  • Thane of rum-guzzling and necromancy

    Asslicking a fanbase/demographic with a serious tone = Doomed to failure


    Examples: Duke Nukem Forever, all Uwe Boll films


    Asslicking a fanbase/demographic as a parody = Great success!


    Examples: Lucky Star, Welcome to the NHK

  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    ^^^Seen it! What else you got?
  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    I read that review months ago. Got anything new?
  • You can change. You can.
    -clicks on Myr's link-

    -finds this instead-


  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    I mean like, regurgitating popular net reviewer's words are......boring. :/
  • They're somethin' else.

  • Kichigai birthday!!
  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    One of the issues I have with Lucky Star is that it seems to take the whole 'waifu' thing to a new level. Like you've got the harems which are wish fulfillment, and the bishoujo shows full of waifu material, but Lucky Star combines it with otaku pandering and seeming to say that they're totally lonely like you and would be your perfect mate.
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    ^^Now this is what I'm talkin bout!
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^I read that in Will Smith's voice.
  • edited 2011-07-29 13:58:31
    That guy's reviews make Confused Matthew look like Siskel and Ebert. Or something like that.

    Anyway, for whatever otaku traits Lucky Star has, at least it has a sense of self-parody about it. Anyone who thinks Lucky Star is the bottom of that barrel needs to see K-On. ASAP.
  • edited 2011-07-29 13:57:53
    You can change. You can.
    ^^^^ Fairly sure that the last image should be replaced by this:


  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
  • edited 2011-07-29 14:09:43
    You can change. You can.
    Anyway, for whatever otaku traits Lucky Star has, at least it has a sense of self-parody about it. Anyone who thinks Lucky Star is the bottom of that barrel needs to see K-On. ASAP.

    I've seen just a bit of both. And so far, I prefer K-ON. At least, it doesn't rely on me being knowledgeable in anime to enjoy it.
  • Kichigai birthday!!
    And K-On has listenable music instead of "I WANNA SAUSAGE"
  • edited 2011-07-29 14:14:53
    K-ON! is awesome.  Lucky☆Star is also good, but I don't like it as much as K-ON!.
  • Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I thoughtLucky Star was good, but not great. It's better than K-On!.
  • Haibane Renmei and Hyouge Mono are the best slice of life chinese cartoons, anyway.
  • edited 2011-07-29 14:25:40
    lol @ nobody subbing Hyouge Mono past episode 5.

    Only not really because there's plenty of shows I actually do want to watch that nobody subbed so I shouldn't make fun of Hyouge Mono for that. :c
  • I enjoyed lucky star, but that was only because i'd never seen anything like it before. most of my shows are usually heavily shonen works, so something like lucky star all of the sudden was totally new to me.


    I havn't seen Kon yet. is it weird that I hear more people talk about lucky star than I do Kon?? well, I guess they are mostly compaints about how its so popular and doesn't deserve it, but it keeps the buzz alive doesn't it?

  • edited 2011-07-29 14:41:56
    I think, at least in Japan, K-ON! is more popular than Lucky Star right now, considering K-ON! has gotten a second season and soon a movie and probably a third TV season.

    But at least in the English-speaking anime fandom, I think that Lucky Star tends to be talked about more often, mostly because people usually see it as more... blatantly otaku-ish, or something, so when people feel like complaining about moe anime, they generally pick Lucky Star to talk about in particular, rather than some other show.

    And, actually, apparently Lucky Star is probably slightly more popular in English-speaking places than K-ON! is, according to MyAnimeList, at least (92,000ish people have it on their list, vs. the 82,000ish for K-ON!).  But that might also just be related to the fact that the Lucky Star anime came out 2 years before K-ON!'s anime.
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