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This utterly strange fanfic concept I just came up with.

ChagenChagen
edited 2011-07-27 22:51:13 in Media
[tɕagɛn]
Okay, so I know that I haven't shut up about Heavy Rain. But I've been thinking a ton about it--as one does when one finishes amazing fiction--and I've gotten the most utterly strange fanfic concept I've ever come up with.

The idea was to take a series, and then have a Heavy Rain-esque set of events happen in it. The idea came from me thinking--"What if, in Lucky Star, Kagami was kidnapped, and Konata had to go through a set of trials to rescue her, like Ethan?"

...Okay, I know Dark Fic usually suck, and I'm not going to attempt this because my writing simply isn't up to par to do something this serious and emotional, but this idea won't leave my head. Seriously. You can replace any setting for Lucky Star--hell, I thought of a K-On! one involving Yui and Ui.

 This could be either an incredible fanfic concept or one of the dumbest ideas ever. I have no idea which one.

Also, I think this is the last time I will bring up Heavy Rain.
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  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    "What if, in Lucky Star, Kagami was kidnapped, and Konata had to go through a set of trials to rescue her, like Ethan?"
    I could have swore that I came across a fic like this when I was searching for Lucky Star badfic, but I can't find it again.

    So I'll just post this instead.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Heavy Rain=/=Saw.

    One is shit.

    The other is a example of incredible storytelling.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Why Chagen, I had no idea you were such a fan of Saw! =O

    I think my old stepfather would like to talk to you =D
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Intentionally reading my post wrong does not make you cool, regardless of what internet "comedians" tell you.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-28 10:33:55
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I like Saw.  Some of them, anyway.  1-3 and 6 were good.  4, 5, and 7 were shit.

    And that's not what I meant.    That just reminded me of that fic, and I found it again when I was searching for the Heavy Rain/Lucky Star fic I thought I remembered.

    Intentionally reading my post wrong does not make you cool, regardless of what internet "comedians" tell you.

    >>implying Cygan was doing that to try to be cool
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I don't do anything to try to be cool.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    No, but it makes her look funny. Incredibly so.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Chagen.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I love Heavy Rain, but I wouldn't call it an example of incredible storytelling.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Cygan: I'm willing to use Willing Suspension of Disbelief for something this grand.

    Can't I ever like a gane without people going on a Jihad against it?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-28 10:51:55
    You can change. You can.
    @Cygan: Thanks for the link. Definetly will use that next time HR is brought up.

    ^Yes. But don't expect me to like it just because you do.

    I criticized the game before you played it.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-28 10:51:52
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ...Jihad? Really?

    And you can still enjoy something that's flawed. Just because something isn't perfect doesnt mean you have to stop liking it, Chagen.
  • ChagenChagen
    edited 2011-07-28 10:52:08
    [tɕagɛn]
    You guys are agressively attacking the game with "IT HAS PLOT HOLES STOP LIKING IT YOU IGNORANT"
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    ... A masterpiece of epic storytelling would not require you to use Willing Suspension of Disbelief.

    You're free to like it. You're not free to say it is a masterpiece of epic storytelling and then expect to not have people question that.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-28 10:53:05
    You can change. You can.
    You're the one who keeps bringing it up as a shining beacon of storytelling. 

    ^Or that. Stupid ninja Cygan. y u so cute

    y
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-28 10:53:23
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^^ Show me the post where someone said you had to stop liking it.

    ninjars all up in hear
  • ChagenChagen
    edited 2011-07-28 10:58:51
    [tɕagɛn]
    Do you know why I love it so much?

    There has been no other game--nay, no other piece of fiction--that I had been engrossed in the storyline that much. I stayed up till fucking 6 in the morning to finish this game. I have never felt such tenseness since anything ever. There are times when I seriously about to break the controller in half, I was ramming the buttons so hard to get the characters out of their predicaments.

    Never had truly pondered ethical decisions in a game before. The Shark made me fucking cry with the sheer gravity of it. Yes, cry.

    Never before did I give this much of a shit about the character's in a work before. Never before did I play a game for hours on end just to see what happens next. I've never even had a movie impact me this much, save for GATTACA.

    And that, my friends, is why I consider Heavy Rain to be one of the greatest pieces of fiction written ever.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    How many games have you actually played o_O
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    I play many games. This one just impacted me far more.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    In any case...

    We're not saying it's not a good game. How the game impacts you is your business.

    What we are saying is that it is objectively not a shining example of storytelling. It relies on tenuous connections, it relies on people not displaying skills they should have, it involves people not questioning things they should.

    It is designed to draw an emotional response from you so that you overlook these flaws. You fell for that hook, line and sinker. Not a bad thing, but it means you are overlooking those flaws.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
     I stayed up till fucking 6 in the morning to finish this game. I have never felt such tenseness since anything ever. There are times when I seriously about to break the controller in half, I was ramming the buttons so hard to get the characters out of their predicaments.

    Me too. Hell, I finished the bitch in one sitting. My friends were outta town anyway, so...

    Never had truly pondered ethical decisions in a game before. The Shark made me fucking cry with the sheer gravity of it. Yes, cry. 

    I won't lie. I didn't cry (I mostly cry at happy stuff, weirdly enough). But it certainly depressed me for a bit and it affected me a lot. 

    Never before did I give this much of a shit about the character's in a work before. Never before did I play a game for hours on end just to see what happens next. 

    I think that HR was the first time in a long time I cared for the characters in a video game, admittedly. Well, not counting MGS, of course /Fanboy.

    Here's the thing, it's stilll flawed. It still has problems. It doesn't mean that you can't like. Hell, I do. But it doesn't matter when it comes to look at the plot and notice all the plotholes.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-28 11:09:29
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    EDIT:  Edited out because the people who are smarter than me said it better.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Except, most of the plot holes can be justified. The others I can simply use WSOD to ignore.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    List of games I have actually played with a better plot than Heavy Rain:

    Windwaker
    Bioshock
    Red Dead Redemption
    MGS series

    (Not so much a slight against Heavy Rain than a promotion of those games)

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Except, most of the plot holes can be justified. The others I can simply use WSOD to ignore.

    Plot holes can't be justified. That's why they're plotholes.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Except, most of the plot holes can be justified. The others I can simply use WSOD to ignore.

    A masterpiece of epic storytelling would not require you to use Willing Suspension of Disbelief.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    So, if I never noticed these plotholes in the first place, why exactly should I give a shit about them?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-28 11:13:48
    You can change. You can.
    beause it means that the story you're calling a masterpiece isn't a masterpiece.

    ^^It should. But it shouldn't make you use it deliberately.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Please don't take this the wrong way, but many fans of the Twilight Saga do not notice the implications in the story.

    Bad writing is bad writing. It can be enjoyable nonetheless, but you cannot claim that a story with bad writing is a masteriece of story telling.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Except that, in my own subjective opinion, Heavy Rain is well written.

    Quality is subjective.
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