"The profuse phallic symbolism of chess provides some fantasy gratification of the homosexual wish"

Hatter

Poni, there's a difference between "egalitarian" and "feminist." I believe that women are just as cruel, stupid and petty as men are, and therefore just as entitled to the legal rights and responsibilities as men, making me a part of the former category.

I hate feminism - radical feminism, really - because it advocates the cause of WOMEN, not equality. Any claims they may make to the contrary are transparently false. If feminism was really about equality, they'd be fighting to make women eligible to the draft, combating child support fraud and opposing domestic violence against men instead of going on slut walks.

I don't pretend that women don't get buttfucked by society. I don't pretend that it's even worse for women in the third world. But in America, men are the victims of legal buttfuckery. It's alright for us to be buttfucked, because the idea that a man might be a victim is still a joke for most of society. 

If I come across a charity for victims of female circumcision on my walk to the market, I'll happily donate. If I find out that female workers at a local company are being exploited, I'll raise my voice in protest as loud as the next person.

But I'm not going to pretend that feminism - particularly radical feminism - is just as important now as it was when women were getting the vote.

Super Lazuli

Can we not turn this into another feminism argument?

I'd much rather make fun of the quote in the OP.

DonZabu

"Twilight fangirls get negative press coverage. Why? Because the Twilight movies demonstrate female gaze by highlighting the sexiness of men, and men are uncomfortable with this because it subverts typical paradigms. Long story short, Twilight fangirls make men feel emasculated, and that's why nobody likes them."

This is the actual thesis statement of an actual feminist article.

^ Here's a whole excerpt from the book in question:

http://chess.eusa.ed.ac.uk/Chess/Trivia/psychology.html

Bee

Yonic.

Rottweiler

"Yeah, the idea that women should be respected as human beings is definitely the downfall of society."

You'd have a hard time finding pre-feminist thinkers who thought women weren't human beings.

Super Lazuli

Guys, c'mon please?

Hatter

I've said all I want to anyway.

On to mocking Freudian psychology.

(Oh, and to the people who claim Freud was essentially for the growth of psychology: Was geocentrism essential for the growth of astronomy?)

DonZabu

Okay, okay:

>The chess player is permitted to touch his opponent's pieces only for purposes of a capture, when, according to the rules, the piece must be removed from the board.

As the players become more expert, the taboo on touching becomes even stronger. In master chess the rule of "touchmove" is observed. If a player touches a piece he must move it.

In view of the profuse phallic symbolism of the game, the taboo on touching has unconsciously two meanings, or, put another way, the ego wards off two threats. One is masturbation (do not touch your penis; do not touch your pieces, and if you do, have an excuse ready). The other threat is homosexuality, or bodily contact between the two men, especially mutual masturbation.

Super Lazuli

the bullshit

it makes me cry T-T

Hatter

That hurt my brain so much I think my psychology professor felt it.

Malkavian

You'd have a hard time finding pre-feminist thinkers who thought women weren't human beings.

Aristotle.

DonZabu

>The King is indispensable, all-important, irreplaceable, yet weak and requiring protection. These qualities lead to the over-determination of its symbolic meaning. First of all, it stands for the boy's penis in the phallic stage, and hence re-arouses the castration anxiety characteristic of that period. Second, it describes certain essential characteristics of a self-image, and hence would appeal to those men who have a picture of themselves as indispensable, all-important and irreplaceable. In this way it affords an additional opportunity for the player to work out conflicts centering around narcissism. Third, it is the father pulled down to the boy's size. Unconsciously it gives the boy a chance to say to the father: To the outside world you maybe big and strong, but when we get right down to it you're just as weak as I am and you need protection just as much as I do.

Super Lazuli

I don't have a psychology professor,

but I'm sure that somewhere, several dead psychologists are spinning rapidly enough in their graves to create tunnels.

DonZabu

What I love the most is this:

>do not touch your penis; do not touch your pieces, and if you do, have an excuse ready

"Uh, it's not what it looks like! I'm touching my penis because...the ice cream man told me to!"

CommandoDude

Exactly WHICH chess piece looks even remotely like a penis?

DYRE

The bishop?

Maybe.

Or all of them, if by "penis" they just mean "tallish thing."

Super Lazuli

Well, pawns and bishops, I guess.....sort of do.

But I really just think they're reaching here.

Chagen

To a lot of people: wider than it is long=penis

Hatter

I find it amusing that Sigmund Freud, the man who formulated the concept of projection, ended up projecting his desire to fuck his mommy onto every other male in the species, and encouraged others to do the same.

Super Lazuli

Between the good people (?) of IJBM and Me, I would like to say that I personally consider my mother among the least attractive people on the planet. .__.

I'd never tell her that, of course, and there's a bias involved, but still. I've never understood the "YOU SECRETLY WANT TO BOINK YO MOMMA" thing.

Chagen

Come on.

The "girls want to steal their father's penises to fuck their mothers" stuff was way more off-the-wall.

Hatter

I can understand feelings of possession. For instance, when I was a small child I'd put myself between my parents so that I was the only one hugging my mother. But it was rather like how I didn't want to share my toys with my brother. If I jealously guarded my toys from my brother, did that mean that I wanted to fuck my toys?

DonZabu

When taking Freudian psychology in, you have to consider the fact that Freud grew up in and studied people from the Victorian era in Europe. Only then do his seemingly overboard beliefs about others, like that people repress everything and don't go through their sexual development properly, start to make sense.

Hatter

Ugh. Victorianism.

When you start using euphemisms to refer to your leg, it's time to cut loose a bit.

Chagen

They also dressed table legs and goldfish in dresses to make sure men weren't turned on accidently.

If a man is being turned on by goldfish, you've got a bigger problem than an overactive sex drive.

Tnu1138

Chess teaches our children immoral values. The government should ban it!

Chagen

Tnu, people still are incapable of telling if you're joking or not (for some nonsensical reason), so you may want to cool it on that.

Super Lazuli

Well, I certainly didn't think he was srs.

That said, I chuckle at the image of that one guy who you know made a fortune off of goldfish dresses.

Stormtroper

Not sure if he's not serious.

Edit: Derp

Super Lazuli

Now now, let's not start any nonsense or Uncle Worksy (that's me, kids) will have to start blowing shit up.