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"I don't care if it sucks! It's Transformers!"

MalkavianMalkavian
edited 2011-07-18 08:18:59 in General
MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
With that kind of attitude you're only cheating yourself out of the well-made Transformers film you deserve.

If you truly love Optimus and Megatron and these characters, surely what you want more than anything else to see them done justice?
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  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    but they think they're doing them justice.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    So, does the third one suck? I haven't seen the second and I grew to hate the first. I liked it at first, but over time and more and more viewings, the flash and hype wore down and I was able to see how crappy it really was.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    If you truly love Optimus and Megatron and these characters, surely what you want more than anything else to see them done justice?

    I just like giant robots and explosions.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    well-made Transformers film you deserve.

    ahahahahaha
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-18 08:22:56
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^There are movies that have those that don't suck!

    ^Deserve might have been a strong word, but expressing satisfaction with a film that is consciously realized to be mediocre at the very best encourages that only more lousy films be made.
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    edited 2011-07-18 08:23:10
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

    ^^^I do too, which is why I skip to the last 40 minutes of the first Transformers live-action movie. Don't need all that plot and those human characters to get in the way.

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-18 08:25:27
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^See, that's my whole point. Any movie where you have to sit through an intolerable amount of bullshit to get to a ridiculously small amount of robots can't be called good or even enjoyable, even by the standards of 'giant robots fighting'

    It's like if an X-men movie was about Senator Kelly for an hour and a half and then you had a needlessly prolonged action scene where wolverine shows up for an hour.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    There are movies that have those that don't suck!

    Not enough for me to be content with.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    edited 2011-07-18 08:27:34
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    ^^^^ Well yeah. Fanbases are pretty terrible in general, though. Between my experience with the Star Wars and Alien vs. Predator fanbases, I'm pretty certain most fans should have nothing to do with creative input into their favourite media. 
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-18 08:30:26
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^There's a whole world of cinema out there.

    It's actually not hard to find satisfying films of any genre, particularly not of the fist-pumping action type.

    ^I agree with the stipulation that occasionally some fans do have something good to say.

    I mean Grant Morrison is obviously a Batman fan, and his stuff is great. I think the thing is too many fans are just way too happy to see Optimus and not demanding anything else, when they have the clear right to.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    I want there to be a knights-in-shining-armour martial arts movie. It'd be like Monty Python and the Holy Grail meets TTGL meets accurate European swordsmanship. 
  • The_EdgeThe_Edge
    edited 2011-07-18 08:31:41
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington

    The whole movie up until the last 40 minutes is like some unfunny awkward joke, like in a sit-com, that is being told to distract us from looking behind us.... oh wait, they used that bit in the movie. Odin damn it!

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Another problem I have is that you can't have hour-long action climaxes. It's impossible to stay that emotionally invested for so long and after awhile just becomes a really long light show.

    You need slow pieces to break up the action! It's called pacing!
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    There's a whole world of cinema out there.

    It's actually not hard to find satisfying films of any genre, particularly not of the fist-pumping action type.

    I dare you to find me five decent live-action giant robot films with explosions and stuff.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    edited 2011-07-18 08:38:25
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    ^^ Unless you have multiple, different action sequences going on that keep you in the plot. 

    Return Of The Jedi is exactly this for half the movie. 

    ^ I kinda lol'd at "live action", seeing as though you know we can find a bazallion awesome animated robots-and-explosions productions. 
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-18 08:40:58
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^Why live-action?

    Also, just off the top of my head I can think of District 9, the second Terminator film, and hell Gundam Savior was problematic but it was a shit ton better than this.

    Also, any given Super Sentai show.

    ^That was also broken up with significant character moments, and didn't take for fucking ever while going LOOKIT THIS NOW LOOKIT THAT! It's engaging, but never visually exhausting.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Because Transformers is live action.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Because animation annoys me.

    It's really annoying to not be able to read their lips.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Because animation annoys me.

    ...
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    It does.

    I deal with it, because there's a lot of really good animated shows, but aspects of it really bug me.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    ah.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Honestly, come to think of it, the nonsense fans go through with Transformers is the same thing I went through with the prequels. I was so happy to have more Star Wars that I didn't let any kind of genuine criticism of what was not a very good movie get in the way.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    NO, MALK, YOU ARE THE ANNOYING FANBOY

    AND THEN, MALKAVIAN WAS AN ANNOYING FANBOY.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    BAD END. D:
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Honestly, come to think of it, the nonsense fans go through with Transformers is the same thing I went through with the prequels. I was so happy to have more Star Wars that I didn't let any kind of genuine criticism of what was not a very good movie get in the way.

    The movie has issues, but people can, and do, enjoy it nonetheless.

    I recognize that it has issues, but you know what? I like it anyway.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    I can enjoy the prequels. 

    But what pisses me off is my own critical nature. I can think of so many ways they could've been better from the ground up that I'm sure Lucas wrote those scripts at the last moment. x_x
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-18 09:00:15
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^That's certainly your right, but by being satisfied by a movie at this level you are saying. "This is all Transformers has to be. I don't have to care about the characters or the plot or stakes so long as I get a few minutes of Optimus and Megatron punching each other. Transformers needn't be good."

    ^The prequels are infinitely frustrating to me for the moments of brilliance they have. The Duel of Fates, the signs of the Jedi Order decaying from inside, pretty much anything with Liam Neeson.

    You see the spark of what could have been amazing.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I can enjoy the prequels.

    But what pisses me off is my own critical nature. I can think of so many ways they could've been better from the ground up that I'm sure Lucas wrote those scripts at the last moment.

    Oh hay, Juan, since when do you have another account?
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Force Ghost. 

    Yes, you got one without dying. 

    Yes, it's pretty fucking hardcore.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    -tries to log in as Obi Juan-

    -remembers this is not TvT-

    Awwwwww. :<
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