Anti-cyberbullying legislation

Malkavian

Harassment isn't a right.

Tnu1138

Tell me Malkavian where do our rights come from?

Hatter

Free speech is.

Tnu1138

and again it can not be limited without being lost.

Malkavian

You don't have the right to go up to a woman and tell her all the dirty things you'd like to do to her. That's legally recognized as sexual harassment.

Similarly, you don't have the right to go on someone's facebook and constantly insult and bully them.

Tnu1138

Malk you evaded the question where do our rights come from?

ClockworkUniverse

So...you're saying that people don't have the right to not be harassed, then?

Malkavian

Clearly if catty fourteen year old bitches cannot hack the facebooks of girls with bad acne then the terrorists have won!

Tnu1138

It depends on whether you see a right as an entitlement (positive) or a nullification (negative).

Hatter

Hacking is already illegal.

I do, however, reserve the right to call someone a cunt online, just as I could if I said so in person.

Tnu1138

Malk: Strawmanning and avoiding the issue. terrorism has nothing to do with this I unlike Hatter here am completely opp[osed to the war and our interventionist foreign policy.

Vorpy

The great thing about facebook and what not is that I can follow anyone I want that I disliked in high school, and stalk them, sending them harassing messages from fake accounts and wiring them virus ridden scripted messages, while also uploading demeaning information about them onto bulletins of their friends, so their friends know all about everything that is meant to be kept private.

There is also finding their parent's facebooks if they have them, and then spilling all of these lies about them to them, and if they are dumb enough to believe it, it comes back on them negatively. Also harassing chain messages and similar things can be spread easier there. If I get banned for harassing them, I could just make another account to harass them there too.

I've seen people kill themselves over things like this, which is great because it means it's an effective way of making little nerdy kids I hated in high school feel like complete shit in a place they use to get away from people like me. Those little shits will have to just deal with it, because I can harass them all I want.

Tnu1138

Yeah do you monsters really want to take away Vorpy's joy?

Bob

Vorpy, stop rambling about your hobbies, we're having a debate about cyberbullying here! <

Tnu1138

Bob.....Vorpy......Bob.......Vorpy........Who's.....ass.......do.....I.....Kiss!?

Hatter

Fake accounts are a breach of ToS.

Sending people viruses is a felony.

Spreading damaging false information about someone is libel.

These things are already illegal. Criminalizing saying nasty things to someone isn't necessary.

Bob

Definitely Vorpy's.

Also, she just baked you a trey of cookies!

Vorpy

Fake accounts are a breach of ToS.

Sending people viruses is a felony.

Spreading damaging false information about someone is libel.

These things are already illegal. Criminalizing saying nasty things to someone isn't necessary.

Internet harassment, evading criminal prosecution since 2001

Tnu1138

Cookies? What kind!?

Bob

[insert your favorite kind of cookies here]

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What about low-income children who get mocked for accepting free lunches?

...what really? That's something to mock?

Tnu1138

The issue that concerns me is that "it's ok to violate it if it's something like this that I agree with" the problemis that's a contrediction if you allow violations of free speech  through law for things like this you open the door for people like the Bible Thumping Conservative base to censor non christian media.

Malkavian

^^Yes. Haven't you gotten the memo? Being poor is your fault!

^So... by keeping an internet bulletin board civil... the Christians can then ban South Park...

makes perfect sense.

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Well I already know they mock the poor in general, but they mock the action of accepting free food?

Tnu1138

yes be3cause they can use it as precedent doing somthing like this is greasing the slope. They'll say "Well since this doesn't count as free speech then that certainly doesn't".  people will just become more and more afraid and eventually slowly but surely it will all be gone.

Malkavian

By that logic, sexual harassment and hatespeech laws should also be repealed, because hey they set precedent.

Tnu1138

so it should be illegal for me to call someone an asshole?

The fact is that people are going to be dicks no matter what you can't legislate that out of them that's what bugs me about people they think if you throw enough legislation and government at a problem it will fix it.

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^^Well considering how Tnu apparently wants a Free "Love" Future...

^ -imagines the sheer amount of people in jail for that-

Malkavian

I don't think you actually understand what cyberbullying is. It's plenty more than 'calling someone an asshole'.

Tnu1138

Free Love future is nice but ther eis an otehr principle your not getting my right to swing my fist ends where the next mans face begins person and property are incredibly important in a free society. just have to draw the line really close otherwise people will say "you can't dress like that by law because the church going old lady has a right not to be offended"