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"Socializng on the internet=Unhealthy"

ChagenChagen
edited 2011-07-17 21:43:28 in Webspace
[tɕagɛn]
I hate this assumption. It's always used by people who can't get over how the internet is ubiqutious these days. I hate it even more when they say that people should socialize in person, because it's better for some vague reason. Why is it so much better? You wanna know what me and my best friend do when we're hanging out? We play videogames and talk about manga and anime and shit. We talk about fanfics, debate Negima, relate funny shit to each other, watch cool youtube videos, and talk about which anime girl we would bone I'm not seeing a difference. Topic inspired by my mom telling me to get off the computer because I spend too much time on it. She then proceeded to call everyone who uses forums creepy. Sorry I don't like hearing you and dad arguing at each other.
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  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Damnit Chagen! you sexy deep voiced shota! Stop posting things I agree wiht.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    Mmm... anger at your parents.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    When you make it your sole source of human interaction, then it becomes unhealthy.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Socializng

    Bah. Spelling mistake.

    I hate this assumption. It's always used by people who can't get over how the internet is ubiqutious these days.

    One point is that... you don't know the other person on the end. You can't see them, therefore it's much easier to lie about their identity.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    people are too relient on sight
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    When you make it your sole source of human interaction, then it becomes unhealthy.

    Indeed. Then again, I think the opposite is true. Balance between the two must be found and used for sinister purposes.

    Or well, I don't think that the opposite is equally true. (I don't think it's unhealthy to discard internet relationships, such as friendships or whatever) but it certainly seems a bit too...obnoxious to do it for others. Whatever works for ya and keeps your float boating and doesn't affect other people negatively is fine, in my opinion.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    Why is it so much better?

    You can do a lot more stuff together, and you can help them (and be helped by them) much more effectively, there's little you can do through a screen other than give advice and words of encouragement.
  • SnappySnappy
    I want your hard, feathery cock, Bird Boy.
    Sight is arguably the most important sense. It controls 80% of your brains decisions.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    You can do a lot more stuff together, and you can help them (and be helped by them) much more effectively, there's little you can do through a screen other than give advice and words of encouragement.

    It's funner to hang around with them if you can hit them in the arm properly, for example. It seems like a silly reason, but my point is that physical presence makes for a lot of stuff that you can't replace with a screen and a keyboard, such as expressions, tone, inflection, etc etc.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    "Sight is arguably the most important sense. It controls 80% of your brains decisions."

    Not to a legally blind person like Tnu.

    "It's funner to hang around with them if you can hit them in the arm properly, for example. It seems like a silly reason, but my point is that physical presence makes for a lot of stuff that you can't replace with a screen and a keyboard, such as expressions, tone, inflection, etc etc."

    Never denied this.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I was just adding to Noimporta's post.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-17 22:00:51
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.

    It's funner to hang around with them if you can hit them in the arm properly, for example

    Juan is abusive
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    The most important part is the second one, though. It's possible you can do without meatspace friendships, and be perfectly content with online interaction; but the fact that your physical body is in meatspace means that you can't forgo relationships in that medium, at least not completely.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss

    "It's always used by people who can't get over how the internet is ubiqutious these days."

    Frankly, I find it annoying the Internet is so invasive, but that's another IJBM for another time.

    To add a point, fundamentally, you're seeing words on a computer screen to garner people's personalities; words that are only posted if the person feels like it. They don't tell you nearly as much as facial expressions and spontaneous speech. Relying on this as your sole means of communication hurts your ability to react to people in real life at a given moment rather than spending 5 minutes or so composing a paragraph of thought. And it leaves you sitting for hours on end. That's terrible.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Juan is abusive

    Why strike out the truth? :D

    Also, listen to the lizard on a business suit. He speaks truth.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    "Juan is abusive"

    So am I, then.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    • Some complain that e-mail is impersonal -- that your contact with
      me, during the e-mail phase of our relationship, was mediated by wires
      and screens and cables. Some would say that's not as good as conversing
      face-to-face. And yet our seeing of things is always mediated by
      corneas, retinas, optic nerves, and some neural machinery that takes the
      information from the optic nerve and propagates it into our minds. So,
      is looking at words on a screen so very much inferior? I think not; at
      least then you are conscious of the distortions. Whereas, when you see
      someone with your eyes, you forget about the distortions and imagine you
      are experiencing them purely and immediately.

  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    And written text is not distorted?
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Eh, there's certainly nothing wrong with internwebs relationships, but on the whole meatspace relationships leave more of an impact on me and result in closer friendships. I mean, moving chokes up more people than a forum dying.

    That said, your mom calling forum users creepy is really silly.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    The point is not that Internet friendships/relationships are unhealthy, Tnu. The point here is that there's no real point in closing yourself forever to your room and just talk to people on the internet.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    and you know there is Facebook and other social networking sites that are more effective at this kind of thing than forums and IRC lines.
  • vacasamavacasama
    Woki mit deim Popo.
    I tend to find more crazy people online than in real life.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^That's because of GIFT.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-07-17 22:12:40
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    The whole time that I've been here, I've said things that would indicate that I am a seventeen year old white American male.  But all that is is words.  For all you people know, I could actually be a woman living in Scotland.  Or an older black man.  Or Juan.

    You don't know me, you know what I want you to know of me.  Is epic level deception about who you really are possible in real life?  Yes.  But it's much, much easier through a computer. 

    I don't remember where I was going with this.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Give a man a mask and then you will truly know him.-Oscar Wilde

    The fact that you would choose to present yourself in such a way says quite a bit.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I tend to find more crazy people online than in real life.

    First, what Malkavian said.

    Second, you never really know who's crazy till you hear about how they went unhinged one night, for example. 
  • BobBob
    Wrong, sama. You meet just as many crazy people online as you do IRL.

    You just meet more openly crazy people online.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Malk: I thought you had to take them to a volcano first.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I don't think it's that people are crazier online... I mean that obsessive yaoi fangirl you meet on livejournal could very likely have a very together life. The internet provides a medium for expressing parts of yourself that you feel pressured to not show otherwise.

    There are negative effects too, but on the whole I think it's a good thing.
  • BobBob
    ...Isn't that what I just said?

    ._.
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