Tinker (the Magic card)

GuyInWhite · 2011-02-12 18:07:03

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love using it in my new EDH deck (my group doesn't mind if we use banned cards), but it is so absurdly broken it's not even funny.

Seriously, what was R&D thinking when they made this card?

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 18:22:10

Same thing they were thinking when they made Time Walk?

GuyInWhite · 2011-02-12 18:39:09

Yes, but the Urza's block was at the point where they should have learned from previous balance issues.

Emphasis on should, since, well, this is the Urza's block.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 18:45:07

It's not Standard?

Oh well, whatever.

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 18:47:44

Why would you think it was?

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 18:48:34

Because MTG + broken = Baneslayer Angel.

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 19:25:51

From what I can see, Baneslayer Angel is only broken in standard. Jace the Mind Sculptor is much worse.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 19:34:05

Jace the Wallet Rapist?

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 19:35:10

Yes, there's a reason he's so expensive.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 19:49:42

Because he is teh gay.

On yugioh standards it's just as expensive as XX-Saber Emmersblade, except Yugioh's rarity is based on neccessity rather than brokeness, which is horrible.

Which angers me.

It's like if Lightning Bolt was a Mythic Rare and worth $110.00.

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 19:57:32

Lots of people bitch about Lotus Cobra being a mythic rare utility card.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 19:59:21

I liked Lotus Cobra. It's still legal? I don't remember Zendikar being in anymore, so shouldn't the transfer hit the price a bit?

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 20:05:34

It was in the Zendikar block, so it's legal until the next set in Scars of Mirrodin comes out.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-12 20:33:25

Oh, okay then. :>

Snakes.

How are the new Titan cards coming? Still overpriced or they dropped yeT?

Gelzo · 2011-02-12 21:05:52

http://magiccards.info/

Go see for yourself.

Though I guess it would depend on your definition of "overpriced."

Miya · 2011-02-12 21:56:51

The first time I saw this, I saw someone pull out a Darksteel Colossus on turn three and the guy promptly lost the next turn.

GuyInWhite · 2011-02-12 22:32:28

"The first time I saw this, I saw someone pull out a Darksteel Colossus on turn three and the guy promptly lost the next turn."

Guess what's an even better Colossus to bring out on turn three?

Tnophelia · 2011-02-13 00:39:15

Progenitus or The Aeons Torn?

Gelzo · 2011-02-13 01:08:57

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=221563

Tnophelia · 2011-02-13 01:22:53

God damn you Wizards of the Coast for copyrighting/trademarking Blightsteel before me....

Now my fantasy is ruined forever.

Still badass and awesome and I want to feed it to my binder.

Nyktos · 2011-02-13 01:46:43

"Seriously, what was R&D thinking when they made this card?"

Quoth MaRo:
"Tinker came about because I always enjoyed the Antiquities card Transmute Artifact.
But all the "extra mana payment" text seemed a little clunky. So I took
it off. Woops. Maybe combining tutoring and comes into play for free
should require some extra mana.

Tinker taught me that designers need to understand how a card ticks before they try to update it."

Miya · 2011-02-13 01:52:50

There's always Memory Jar, Banned before its release.

Try this with Megrim and Tinker and you'll see how insane it can get.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-13 16:52:56

Magic is cheapy cheap and balanced.

The problem is, nobody plays it here.

Nyktos · 2011-02-13 19:03:44

"Magic is cheapy cheap"

Jace says hi.

Tnophelia · 2011-02-13 19:19:57

Jace is not the only good card to use.

There are plenty of cheap essentials that don't suck, Jace is just THE BEST, but is not a requirement to make a blue deck work.

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