that not being a complete leftist is some sort of internet sin

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 19:49:18

I don't get it it's as if you don't embrace everything associated with the pollitical left you're some horrible awefull person. I fully embrace the social and cultural views of the left but not the economic and fiscal views I just don't see them working on the grand scheme of things and it would require a crapton of reworkign of the system to create more interventionist politics and state intrusion.

Gelzo · 2011-06-20 19:50:52

Nyktos · 2011-06-20 19:50:57

DonZabu · 2011-06-20 19:53:21

Check YouTube; you'll find plenty of folks who look as if they're on YouTube to take a break between Tea Party rallies and restocking the bomb shelter for when the commies activate the nuclear device disguised as Obama's birth certificate. They get accepted pretty well there.

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 19:55:22

I beg your pardon Nyktos? I'm just asking for clerification am I a heartless soulless person because i'm not a complete leftist?

Nyktos · 2011-06-20 19:55:53

No? "Leftist" isn't a particularly meaningful term, anyway.

Gelzo · 2011-06-20 19:55:58

For the longest time I've maintained that YouTube is the last bastion of sanity on the internet.

GLORIOUSLeader · 2011-06-20 19:57:00

wat

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 19:57:03

Actually i've noticed a huge anarchist/libertarian movement on YouTube lately.

DonZabu · 2011-06-20 20:01:11

Libertarians are pretty right.

^^^

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:03:08

So you're syaing Libertarianism is exactly the same as Conservatism? That they are right and based on that do not support civil liberties and personal freedom. That they want to censor the media, to get in insane wars and imperialistic policies? That they want to ban gay marrige? That they want to make a Theocrcy?

Gelzo · 2011-06-20 20:05:55

^^Hey, do you have another video that explains to me why "Sony" is an evil word?

GLORIOUSLeader · 2011-06-20 20:06:05

Because all libertarians believe that, dontchaknow.

^

DonZabu · 2011-06-20 20:08:31

@Tnu: No, they're not the same thing as conservatives. I just think it's kind of weird grouping anarchists with libertarians, given how historically leftist anarchists have been and how relatively rightist libertarians have been. Though I suppose that depends on what kind of anarchists we're talking about here.

Miles11 · 2011-06-20 20:10:24

Tnu, whilst I have little to no knowledge on the fiscal and economic views on the right, I don't exactly see why you would be hated for it. It's just another point of view, really.

I don't really think that it's a sort of internet sin, more that the "right" side of things is under a lot of scrutiny just due to the way things are right now with the government and that simply associating with that side can get you flak. Which...is a bad thing, really.

Of course, I could be totally wrong, in which case, disregard everything I just said.

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:10:25

Actually anarchism isn't really exclusively left it depends on what you define as left cna we clear this up real quick? I define left as more personal freedom but big interventionist government in economics while right as the reverse.

glennmagusharvey · 2011-06-20 20:10:46

> I don't get it it's as if you don't embrace everything associated with the pollitical left you're some horrible awefull person.

I don't think you're a horrible, awful person.

Try talking less about politics; this is less likely to make people argue incessantly.

glennmagusharvey · 2011-06-20 20:11:42

That, and also, most people don't agree with your feeling that government and the state is out to get you all the time. Thus, to a lot of other people, you seem a tad bit paranoid.

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:12:21

Who said I was paranoid!? I want names.

glennmagusharvey · 2011-06-20 20:14:30

I used "paranoid" myself. I don't remember exact instances of other people using it, but I think people have generally held an opinion similar to this. Feel free to ask other users if you so wish.

To other users: Please do speak up if you have anything to add to this commentary.

Gelzo · 2011-06-20 20:15:26

GMH: I'm pretty sure that was another of his jokes that borders Poe's Law.

GLORIOUSLeader · 2011-06-20 20:15:35

Alright, I guess: Yes, the Internet in general is probably left-leaning. That does not mean conservative arguments are not considered.

Vivi · 2011-06-20 20:15:40

Also, I think this group as a whole is more prone to liberal ideas.

IanExMachina · 2011-06-20 20:16:08

Go to Free Republic for all the right wing dross you could ever want.

glennmagusharvey · 2011-06-20 20:16:51

Did I just get Poe'd?

Well, I guess it serves me right. I enjoy Poeing other people.

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:16:54

I don't like to call it liberal myself I just call it "left" I think the modern usage of the word "liberal" is a mockery of the classical usage.

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:18:23

Also when you say right wing in Free Republic do you also me the religious and social confor4mity aspect os the right or only economics? Free Republic is a nice sounding. name but i'm not sure what's in it.

GLORIOUSLeader · 2011-06-20 20:19:06

It's a conservative-based forum. I don't know much else about it.

glennmagusharvey · 2011-06-20 20:21:08

It's a political issue-discussion forum.

I'd stay away from it on just that basis.

(Still slightly annoyed that SSP had to move to DKE.)

Tnu1138 · 2011-06-20 20:21:16

when I think conservative based I think complete conservatism as in the social aspects to so no thanks

IanExMachina · 2011-06-20 20:22:08

One of their tags for discussions is "Homosexual agenda"...

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