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IJAM: Ayn Rand

edited 2011-06-17 18:49:19 in Wonderful posts
She is like, so incredibly smart. I am in awe at the breadth of her wisdom and experience demonstrated in Atlas Shrugged. Clearly, she is a goddess of rationality. I mean, to think I used to believe in such garbage as scientific peer review. Through Hank Rearden, she showed me that all you need is to trust that your revolutionary new material will work, regardless of what those uneducated organized losers think. And her talent in agriculture! I would have thought farming would be hard work, but she makes it look trivial! Then there's her taste in music. Oh, I can almost hear that mathematically perfect concerto! Her debating skills are so transcendental that everyone is completely unable to argue against her, and her philosophy? Forget all those other mentally masturbating morons, she only uses pure reason. I'm betting with her rationality, she put all the mathematicians of the world to shame. All hail the Ubermensch Rand!

Comments

  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    rape
  • You can change. You can.
    That's so much sarcasm. I didn't know humans were capable of so much sarcasm.
  • Woki mit deim Popo.
    I guess you never heard of the British then.
  • IJBM: People/Things who I hear nothing but hate for, without any explanation as to why they are hated so much.
  • You can change. You can.
    No, see, the British do sarcasm in a humorous fashion.
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    No, of course they never do. 
  • edited 2011-06-17 19:25:26

    ^^^Since you asked.

    Abridged: Ayn Rand is really, really egotistic.

  • edited 2011-06-17 19:34:45
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Also: Altruism is evil.

    V FARK U COMMIE NAZI
  • $80+ per session
    That sentence wasn't grammaticallly correct GLORIOUS.
  • edited 2011-06-17 19:30:18

    "When translated from Jargonese, Rand is attempting to say that "altruism" is acting like a doormat and only working for others without consideration of one's own needs. Naturally, few people actually have such a view on life; even fewer do who actually practice altruism. In Oldspeak, altruism is simply acting to benefit humanity. Like most straw men, the "Altruist" movement feared by Randroids cannot defend itself because it doesn't exist. While Auguste Comte actually did advocate something like this ("live for others"), people wisely declined to obey his dictum."

    Also, Atlas Shrugged contains, among other things, rich industrialists whining about being persecuted by society, protagonists that express their individuality through joining a cult, a tunnel disaster where everyone's death is justified by them daring to think socialist thoughts, the infamous 60 page long speech (which is bad by itself, but what's in the speech is worse. It's basically "Existence exists" and "A is A" repeated a whole bunch of times in different guises), and claims that disabled people don't deserve help because they only let the strong down.

  • edited 2011-06-17 19:33:24
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    Abyss: Rational Wiki?

    That place is a biased hellhole of Radical Athiests. I want a real source of info, not a look into the sad lives of basement dweller Atheists.
  • edited 2011-06-17 19:38:14
    You're talking to an anarchist pinko hippie. Of course my sources (including my primary source, reading the book) are going to be biased. I could tell you to read her stuff yourself, but really, it's not worth sitting through pages and pages of bad writing unless you're really curious. Of course, there's always Wikipedia for a (relatively) impartial source.
  • Also, I was considering becoming an Objectivist for a while a few months ago...
  • I once saw an entire room of philosophy teachers burst into laughter at the mention of her name.
  • That place is a biased hellhole of Radical Athiests. I want a real source of info, not a look into the sad lives of basement dweller Atheists.
    No, you asked why people hated her, and Rationalwiki is a good place to see the reasons for the hate exposited.If you want info on her views, the best source would be her own books, don't skip Galt's speech!
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Okay, while I think Ayn Rand was kinda crazy, regarding the altruism thing: she was using an older definition of altruism which boiled down to "anything that helps more people than it hurts is good."

    There are many reasons to dislike Ayn Rand. That particular one isn't very good.
  • Not to mention she was writing at about the same time that communism was gaining momentum.
  • edited 2011-06-17 20:25:29
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    rich industrialists whining about being persecuted by society

    Because they believed they were on the receiving end of tall poppy syndrome and that all their wealth and ideas would be leeched from them.

    At least in-universe, their whining is justified.

    The Fountainhead
    does a way better job of explaining her beliefs, even if those beliefs include "It's better to be a rapist than a doormat".
  • "Also, I was considering becoming an Objectivist for a while a few months ago... "

    It would be helpful to know that Objectivism is an atheist movement as well.

  • edited 2011-06-20 22:12:45

    "I could say to you that I have done more good for my fellow men than you can ever hope to accomplish --- but I will not say it, because I do not seek the good of others as a sanction for my right to exist."

  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    I think Ayn Rand is okay.
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