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That the only method of obtaining experience in music (or anything else)...

Wicked223Wicked223
edited 2011-06-09 11:50:44 in Wonderful posts
We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
Is an incredibly slow, haphazard, asymptotic, and time-consuming.

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  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    -looks up asymptotic-

    wut
  • PonicalicaPonicalica
    (void)
    You've never heard of an asymptote? o_O
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    Only thing I vaguely remember about that word.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asymptotic
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    You've never heard of an asymptote? o_O

    Silly Ponicalica, thinking we all know geometry.

    @Wicked:To quote Andy Samberg, great poet of our generation:WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD, JACKASS!

    More to the point, learning things like these takes lots of time. Same goes to drawing, writing, et al.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    The real world's sounding more and more like a terrible place every single day...
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    (of lines) approaching ever nearer, but never crossing.

    Err...I don't exactly see how this has to do with lines, but I guess that's what it meant in the OP?

    I'm also not sure exactly how high you have to go in order to be considered experienced in this case.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    The real world's sounding more and more like a terrible place every single day...

    Nah, it's not. It's a harsh place, but when you find a proper way to live, it's beautiful.

    Err...I don't exactly see how this has to do with lines, but I guess that's what it meant in the OP?

    An asymptote never approaches point zero in either of the axises. I think. (Forgive me if I misspelt anything, I'm not accostumed to discuss math in English...or in Spanish, for that matter. >_>)

  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-06-09 11:58:25
    Has friends besides tanks now
    A helpful image for Edmania:


    The red, dotted line is the asymptote, and the blue line, representing a quadratic equation of some sort, never crosses either of the red lines. It approaches it, but never crosses it.

    ^ An asymptote doesn't strictly have to be either of the axes. It also often take the shape of a diagonal line with a slope of 1, though any line works, really, depending on the equation.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    edited 2011-06-09 11:59:23
    Tableflipper
    Wait a second, wouldn't it make more sense to say something isn't asymptotic in that case (for example, those blue lines are specifically not asymptotes) also aren't those red things crossing anyway so why would something asymptotic be referring to what isn't crossing?
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    All I meant by 'asymptotic' was that I could keep practicing blindly and never reach zero (being skilled), can we cool it with the derail
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-06-09 12:03:05
    Has friends besides tanks now
    ^^ If you want to be literal about it, then sure. But in this case "asymptotic" means "in relation to an asymptote", because they never cross a certain point. Or it means that the ideal to be reached is an asymptote.

    ^ It also means that, when referring to more worldly things.

    And sorry about adding to the derail. As for being experienced in music: while I don't believe there's a set threshold to be crossed, you can eventually hold your own with musical knowledge and possibly application. Or something like that.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    All I meant by 'asymptotic' was that I could keep practicing blindly and never reach zero (being skilled), can we cool it with the derail

    Except no. You'll always want to learn new stuff, but there's defintely a point where you can be skilled. All it takes is hard work and dedication.


  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    Well there's always the case where someone dies before they can achieve their goal...
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-06-09 12:05:36
    You can change. You can.
    ^ Nobody caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaares. More to the point, if you put yourself a goal with this, you'll only end up being depressed. Trust me.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    A lot of learning resources tend to overcomplicate music theory, or teach it in an inefficient order.

    What you're after is interval theory, scale theory, chord theory and how they're related. Everything to do with harmony and melody can be inferred from those things.
  • StormtroperStormtroper
    I took asymptotic to mean that the more you improve, the harder it becomes to improve, as asymptotic functions tend to be (except when they don't, anyway).

    Anyhow, that's true for music (or anything else) so...
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-06-09 14:02:07
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ^ That sounds more like a logistic-equation modeling of learning/enthusiasm.
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