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Some people moving to shut down conservative websites.

Tnu1138Tnu1138
edited 2011-05-26 20:43:06 in General
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=5125

First hit from a Google search on tyhe issue after hearign about it in the news now I don't like social conservative dogma ei ther but t his just strikes me as wrong. If we allow this then free speech is pretty much dead.
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  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    To understate things, this doesn't look like a balanced news source.

    And yeah, petitions aren't ever anything to be worried about.
  • ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(`Д´）╯︵ ┻━┻
    Tableflipper
    I knew who-

    wheres chagen
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Wow, that source isn't biased at all. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    It was the first one that came up when I googled thre subject I heard it in the back ground when my dad was watching the news. I googlede it and pulled up the first page just for the sake of example ok? to have my views to express on here I have to post two quotes.
    It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something
    many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of
    speech is most critical when the message is one most people find
    repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains
    true today.

    • If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
      • Original preface to Animal Farm; as published in George Orwell : Some Materials for a Bibliography (1953) by Ian R. Willison



  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    http://biggovernment.com/mrctv/2011/05/26/video-dc-liberals-sign-petition-to-ban-conservative-websites/

    There any better?
  • GelzoGelzo
    edited 2011-05-26 21:05:22
    Pony Sleuth
    No one with any power is trying to get the government to shut down websites with dissenting political opinions. To think otherwise is oversensitivity, ignorance, or paranoia.

    It's really hard for me to care about what random people on the streets are willing to sign. It isn't hard to find idiots and people who are easily persuaded.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    I just heard it and thought i'd mention it around here kind of reminds me of the fact that a scary ammount of people voted to ban protests near the capital  building.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Considering the fact that the name of the website is "Big Government," I'd be wary of that one too. 

    Call me when it gets on Reuters. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    meh I just heard it on TV and tried to find somthing on the spot. So sue me.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Where on TV?
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Honestly i'm just worrie dabout the notion that anyone would support any kind of free speech violations by the state.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Not sure dad was watching it it was in the backgrtound.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    That is, without a single doubt in my mind, the best banner I've ever seen in my entire life
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    edited 2011-05-26 21:11:59
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Well, yeah. I mean, it's almost grand enough to be Stephen Colbert's. 
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    Um... this is a bit counterintuitive, considering these are liberals that want these sites banned.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    what do you mean Schitzo?
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    Liberals are generally in favor of, well... liberties.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    at least social liberties and it depends on whether you mean classical liberalism or modern liberalism which only supports personal liberty at the expense of economic liberty.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    in essence liberals want as little government as possible in our personal lives but want a state-controled economy. while conservatives want to regulate our personal lives but a mostly free economy. This is why i'm bugged that Libertarians are associated with Conservatives apperently. I never got the connection. It was only on an economic level and that carries the implication that if you support personal liberty you have to support economic intervention9ism and vica versal. That you're either Denmark or Singapore.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    edited 2011-05-26 21:28:30
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    liberals want as little government as possible in our personal lives


  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    ok that's usually the case. What are you gfetting at GL?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Protip: The words "liberal" and "conservative" have no standard meaning.  It is always dependent on the geography.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    edited 2011-05-26 21:40:36
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    As far as I know, liberals do not oppose greater government intervention in peoples' lives. Conservatives do. 

    ^ Also this. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    by what standerds of liberal and conservative? Of what countries?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-05-26 21:44:19
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ^^ No, it depends on the issue.

    Liberals tend to favor civil liberties along with economic regulation; conservatives oppose economic regulation but also oppose civil liberties.

    In other words, liberals trust people more than money, and conservatives trust money more than people.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Can't you trust money AND people?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Me?  Personally, I trust neither, but I also trust that they'll be too busy doing their own shit to care about me. :P
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Of course not. That assumes a society that isn't totally black and white, which, according to politicians, does not exist. 
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    actually if anything it's more black and white. You either have Liberty or you don't.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-05-26 21:56:53
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Well, I definitely don't have a girlfriend named Liberty, so I guess I don't have Liberty. :P

    Joking aside, do you realize that there are more than just one single "liberty"?  And that there are multiple degrees of freedom?

    (no pun intended, statistics people)
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