Men and money

Bradamante

Where does society get this bad idea that a man's money is more important than his love? People tend to believe that the more a man spends on a woman's engagement ring or valentine's day gift, the more he loves her. The men in pop and rap songs boast about how rich they are and proclaim that they will buy a woman things as a token of their love. And people tend to see financial support as more important in a child's life than an actual flesh and blood father figure who loves his children.

Why? And more importantly, STOP IT! Money won't give you happiness in the same way love will. Why is a ring that cost a fortune better than one with sentimental value? And won't a child be emotionally impoverished without a father figure? Men aren't just walking wallets. Men can love, and that's much more important.

Myrmidon

Longfellow

Forzare

IanExMachina

I'm sure there is a comprehensive article explaining the engagement ring cost and it having to do with DeBeers and making sure diamonds prices are high. Will see if I can find it.

Gelzo

To be fair, you really need someone in the relationship to be able to provide for a family financially before you start one.

Bradamante

True, but who says the man has to be the provider in the family?

Chagen

Because it shows that he loves her enough to spend lavish amounts of money on her, especially when he gets no external benefit for spending that money--the gift won't do benefit him at all on its own, after all.

Of course, there's nothing saying that women can't do this as well.

Bradamante

But where do we get the idea that money is the standard means of self-sacrifice for men? Or that self-sacrifice doesn't apply to women, too.

For that matter, spending lavish amounts of money isn't even a sacrifice, because it's implied that the woman will repay him with physical or emotional doting and intimacy.

glennmagusharvey

Can I give my girlfriend a set of drawing-pencils instead of a diamond ring?

IanExMachina

If she isn't entrenched in the ring idea.

Or try a vibrating cock ring, double pleasure win.

Hatter

Bradamante, I'd hug you, if I weren't convinced you were a 60-year-old morbidly obese Tennessee man like every other "woman" on the internet.

glennmagusharvey

^^ IJBM: People inevitably think about sex when thinking about relationships.

Wait, I can make a whole thread about this.  Be right back.

IanExMachina

^ It wasn't a serious thought, although there have been some adverts for sextoys that have shown a proposal and then the reveal was it was a vibrating cock ring instead of what you'd expect.

Hatter

Sex is nice, but the girl I like... Let's just say I'd be the happiest man in the world if I could just held her hand.

I'm old-fashioned that way.

GLORIOUSLeader

^^ Would a vibrating cock ring even fit on your finger?

IanExMachina

Well it obviously would unless your cock was smaller than your finger, it would just be loose.

Hatter

Depends on how big your finger is. Or, alternatively, how small it is.

Bradamante

Bradamante, I'd hug you, if I weren't convinced you were a
60-year-old morbidly obese Tennessee man like every other "woman" on the
internet.

@Hatter: Haventcha heard? All non-feminists are old white bible belt men. Well, that or housewives.

Hatter

No, actually, there are no women on the internet. All men are boys, all women are men, and all the kids are FBI agents in disguise.