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Screamo

wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
edited 2011-05-16 22:55:35 in General
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I like rock for the most part, but this is just something I just do not get. My friends love the genre and assure me it's great and deep and while I might catch some kinda deep lyrics every so often, most of the songs sound almost same-y to me. I don't even mind screaming in a song, I just prefer that it's used sparingly to compliment the whole thing.

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  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    It's okay. It doesn't take much effort to make, but it's raw sound for those who don't care about the lyrics, and only the noises.
  • wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
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    Thing is, I  always my friends quoting the really wangsty songs, which may have made my view a little less sympathetic than just general apathy which is usually what I feel for most genres I'm not particularly into.  
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Tell him to stop, that usually works. Tell him to listen to Screamo that isn't as heavy on the wangsty stuff. Do you know any of the quotes that he is spouting?
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    It's definitely an acquired taste.

    I'm not massively into the genre, but I like a little of it.  I think the distinctive guitar sound is a big part of the appeal for many people.  It's easier to hear if you listen to an instrumental, e.g.:



    Also, sometimes they do really unusual things that you just don't tend to hear in mainstream rock, probably because of the experimentation of their hardcore roots.  This is a good example (though kinda progressive, in many ways); note also the poetic, reflective lyrics, albeit screamed:



    So that's the appeal, I'd say.  Yeah, the overall sound and mood is kind of depressing; it's not something I'd want to listen to all the time.
  • wannabeotakingwannabeotaking
    edited 2011-05-16 23:09:16
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    Given a few minutes I could find some of the quotes... Probably I have a terrible sense of what is being quoted and what is actually being said

    Kwah Yeah, I can see where you're goin with it. Still, I'm in the philosophy that less is more as far as screamo is concerned
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    >My friends love the genre and assure me it's great and deep
    >my friends quoting the really wangsty songs

    Hiss and boo. Get new friends. Alternatively, try progmetal/symphonic metal for the same complex guitar work, subdued mood and deep lyrics, but without the underlying wangst.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    > progmetal/symphonic metal
    > deep lyrics

    Careful there.
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    Pretentious, pseudophilosophical text, then. Barring the symphonic metal that only includes LARP antics.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-05-17 11:59:34
    Has friends besides tanks now
    Eh. Every genre of music generally has shitty lyrics. I'm not sure how true this is for symphonic metal and prog metal (or in other words, each genre's subgenres), but metal as a whole is certainly not an exception. There are plenty of metal subgenres whose lyrics are even worse than those of mainstream music.

    I don't have much to say about screamo except that I don't like it and I feel wannabeotaking's pain to a degree.
  • VorpyVorpy
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    Death Metal is about the purest evil, extinction and sins of the universe, and Symphonic metal is about fantasy, heroes and Tolkein's work, correct?
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I thought symphonic metal was about adding bowed strings to the rock band.

    Also, yeah, it's the sound of screamo that I don't like.  Curiously, I have a slight tendency to like a rock/metal song more if it doesn't have a voice part, but scream/growling/etc. vocals are the most prominent example of what I don't enjoy.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-05-17 12:05:44
    Has friends besides tanks now
    ^^ I think symphonic metal is more defined by the sound than the lyrics, though it is often more poetic, as far as I've heard.

    Power metal is generally more about the distinctly Tolkienesque variety of fantasy. Death metal is practically a genre of its own, and its subgenres are often radically different from one another.
  • VorpyVorpy
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    Somebody in the TVT thread helped me find the difference between black, doom and death metal since Doom metal is about morbidity, the undead, disease and misfortune, and Black metal is about demons, hell, chaos, the apocalypse and blasphemous rituals.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-05-17 12:12:12
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    Doom and black metal often deal with those themes, but so does death metal. I would argue that there's little difference in the themes between death metal and other extreme genres, and that the difference is strictly in presentation.

    The biggest differences come from the musical stylings of each genre.
  • NyktosNyktos
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    @Vorpy:
    Symphonic metal is about fantasy, heroes and Tolkein's work, correct?
    No, that's power metal (and, oddly enough, some black metal). Symphonic metal...I dunno if there's really a stereotype for lyrical themes; it seems pretty varied. Mythology seems to be a common subject, possibly because of Therion's influence.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-05-17 12:31:30
    Has friends besides tanks now
    It seems like the closest that symphonic metal has to common lyrical themes is being poetic, which is funny because technically lyrics are just poetry anyway. In this case, they're poetic as in written with archaic or unusual language. I think. Don't cite me on that; I don't listen to symphonic metal.

    Mythology is a common theme in many genres of metal. Except certain death metal subgenres.
  • VorpyVorpy
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    Power Screamo for the win.
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    edited 2011-05-17 13:45:43
    Because you never know what you might see.
    >Alternatively, try progmetal/symphonic metal for the same complex guitar work, subdued mood and deep lyrics, but without the underlying wangst.

    Except that genre is not really very similar to screamo in terms of sound and the two genres have different strengths.  Apart from anything else, it's typically heavier (though some screamo bands like Orchid are pretty heavy, I guess) and typically emphasises metal qualities such as riffs and soloing.

    Besides, maybe it's because I'm more familiar with the classic rock and heavy metal traditions that Tool draw from than I am with hardcore punk, but I'd say Circle Take the Square have a more interesting general sound than Tool.  At the very least, they're similarly musically complex and removed from the mainstream rock sound, and I think their lyrics are more poetic.  Lyrically, they remind me a little of the Manic Street Preachers only without the political aspect.

    @glennmagusharvey: Did you listen to the tracks I embedded?  The first is a purely instrumental track, and the second is a song but with an extended instrumental portion.
  • DYREDYRE
    I like those songs Khwarizmi embedded :3
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    @khwarizmi: Not yet, but I will later.
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    If all screamo sounded like The Fall of Troy, I'd listen to it, but it doesn't so HA
  • DYREDYRE
    The Fall of Troy is screamo?
  • Wicked223Wicked223
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    It has screamo vocals, if nothing else.
  • VorpyVorpy
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  • NoimportaNoimporta
    Pretentious, pseudophilosophical text, then. Barring the symphonic metal that only includes LARP antics.
    It's OK, prog/symphonic metal are my favourite subgenres, but for every "Paradise Lost", there usually are three "Prophets of War".
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