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Gurren Lagann *Spoilers Within*
This has got to be the greatest example of Hype Backlash I have ever come across personally.
I hate this show, I really do, the first arc where Simon is 13 just pissed me right the fuck off and it's all because of one guy, Kamina. I understand why people might like him but to me he's just another hot blooded idiotic hero who actually makes Luffy look like a great strategist at times. I can forgive hot blooded characters who don't really think things through (I love One Piece) but Kamina goes beyond that, every episode he was in mostly dealt with how he would do things and if you don't follow his standards all the way then GTFO, I think this really got to me when he tried teaching Simon how to fuse the robots and he had such a high fucking standard about going about it, I'm all for rule of cool and all but god damn, just because he doesn't try to fuse in an awesome way, he's not good enough.
His catchphrases are meant to be like words of God from what I can gather from the fans and if you don't follow him and his "teachings" then you're just a pussy who can't do anything. He seems to stick his nose in at everything he comes across that he doesn't agree with, yells a lot and then we're meant to accept that as perfect logic.
This all came to a head when he dies in episode 8. That proved to me that this wasn't just some stupid badass character, this was a stupid badass mary sue. What results has got to be the most drawn out thing I've ever seen in tv ever, he dies and everyone goes into a Heroic BSOD for 3 fucking episodes. Simon pretty much becomes a depressed shell that won't stop sulking and everyone keeps going on about great Kamina was, then Nia comes along and in one scene says that yes Kamina was probably a great guy but he's dead, it's time to move on and see the bigger picture at hand, and she gets yelled at by Simon for not understanding Kamina. This is a character who inspired everyone around him, was treated like a God and if you didn't like him then something was definitely wrong with you and you just can't have fun.
A friend of mine watched the series and went on and on about great the show was and how awesome Kamina was and how he cried manly tears when he died, I decided to check it out but then I realize that it's not for me and I make an offhand joke to him where I said I don't think I'll be crying when the depressing shit happens since the show hasn't really sucked me in, he proceeds to call me a douche because I won't be crying when Kamina dies. Everytime I gave a reason why the show doesn't appeal to me he proceeds to berate me because I should just learn to have fun and Kamina pretty much defines character development and all that shit.
Once the time skip happened, it kind of got better because then it actually had a plot at hand but at that point I was burned out with the series and just gave up.
I know this is meant to be an affectionate parody of over the top mecha anime but even I like mecha anime when it has a plot (Yes I even like EVA) and if I'm meant to wade through that crap that is Kamina to get to the actual meat of the show in the time skip then why bother.
To remedy this, I watched Cowboy Bebop for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I hate this show, I really do, the first arc where Simon is 13 just pissed me right the fuck off and it's all because of one guy, Kamina. I understand why people might like him but to me he's just another hot blooded idiotic hero who actually makes Luffy look like a great strategist at times. I can forgive hot blooded characters who don't really think things through (I love One Piece) but Kamina goes beyond that, every episode he was in mostly dealt with how he would do things and if you don't follow his standards all the way then GTFO, I think this really got to me when he tried teaching Simon how to fuse the robots and he had such a high fucking standard about going about it, I'm all for rule of cool and all but god damn, just because he doesn't try to fuse in an awesome way, he's not good enough.
His catchphrases are meant to be like words of God from what I can gather from the fans and if you don't follow him and his "teachings" then you're just a pussy who can't do anything. He seems to stick his nose in at everything he comes across that he doesn't agree with, yells a lot and then we're meant to accept that as perfect logic.
This all came to a head when he dies in episode 8. That proved to me that this wasn't just some stupid badass character, this was a stupid badass mary sue. What results has got to be the most drawn out thing I've ever seen in tv ever, he dies and everyone goes into a Heroic BSOD for 3 fucking episodes. Simon pretty much becomes a depressed shell that won't stop sulking and everyone keeps going on about great Kamina was, then Nia comes along and in one scene says that yes Kamina was probably a great guy but he's dead, it's time to move on and see the bigger picture at hand, and she gets yelled at by Simon for not understanding Kamina. This is a character who inspired everyone around him, was treated like a God and if you didn't like him then something was definitely wrong with you and you just can't have fun.
A friend of mine watched the series and went on and on about great the show was and how awesome Kamina was and how he cried manly tears when he died, I decided to check it out but then I realize that it's not for me and I make an offhand joke to him where I said I don't think I'll be crying when the depressing shit happens since the show hasn't really sucked me in, he proceeds to call me a douche because I won't be crying when Kamina dies. Everytime I gave a reason why the show doesn't appeal to me he proceeds to berate me because I should just learn to have fun and Kamina pretty much defines character development and all that shit.
Once the time skip happened, it kind of got better because then it actually had a plot at hand but at that point I was burned out with the series and just gave up.
I know this is meant to be an affectionate parody of over the top mecha anime but even I like mecha anime when it has a plot (Yes I even like EVA) and if I'm meant to wade through that crap that is Kamina to get to the actual meat of the show in the time skip then why bother.
To remedy this, I watched Cowboy Bebop for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Also. It doesn't matter they do idiotic shit. The show isn't about thinking smart. DUH. It's about being a determinator and not giving up.
I hate this show, I really do, the first arc where Simon is 13 just
pissed me right the fuck off and it's all because of one guy, Kamina. Every episode he
was in mostly dealt with how he would do things and if you don't follow
his standards all the way then GTFO, I think this really got to me when
he tried teaching Simon how to fuse the robots and he had such a high
fucking standard about going about it, I'm all for rule of cool and all
but god damn, just because he doesn't try to fuse in an awesome way,
he's not good enough.
This all came to a head when he dies in episode 8.
Simon pretty much becomes a depressed shell that won't stop sulking and
everyone keeps going on about great Kamina was, then Nia comes along and
in one scene says that yes Kamina was probably a great guy but he's
dead, it's time to move on and see the bigger picture at hand, and she
gets yelled at by Simon for not understanding Kamina.
This is a character who inspired everyone around him, was treated like a
God and if you didn't like him then something was definitely wrong with
you and you just can't have fun.
A friend of mine watched the series and went on and on about great the
show was and how awesome Kamina was and how he cried manly tears when he
died, I decided to check it out but then I realize that it's not for me
and I make an offhand joke to him where I said I don't think I'll be
crying when the depressing shit happens since the show hasn't really
sucked me in, he proceeds to call me a douche because I won't be crying
when Kamina dies.
I thi nk you might have hit the wrong end of some misaimed fandom there.
And I only agree because of the all-caps references IRL. I don't think yelling GIGA DRILL BREAKER is funny, but the fandom I am around know that Kamina is just an anime character and they know better than to base all of their confidence and self-esteem on an anime character, or think of him as a role-model or try to emulate him in any way, because all in all it's just pathetic and they should be using more...realistic terms to define who they are.
It was also the most racist movie ever made in the history of North American film.
This brings us to Gurren Lagann as it is know in the west. It's a great series, and likely to be remembered as such for decades to come. It way of manging to tell an epic tail in a very short amount of time is unparallelled. As is it's ability to balance both bitter realities of war and genocide with the comedic goofiness of bugs bunny cartoon.
All that however does not excuse the glaring chauvinism throughout the series. It's marred by blatant patriarchal sexism and homophobic caricatures and threats.
The series emphasizes "manly strength" and is filled with phallic imagery. Per se, those things aren't necessarily bad, but the series keeps driving through the importance of manliness, and constantly exemplifies the apex of that being bravado and protecting women. Trust me when I say I'm not inferring too much, they drive home this point at least once an episode. If all that weren't bad enough, the women of this show blindly accept and embrace men's chauvinistic attitudes. The men of the show are constantly swearing to protect "their" women, and the women never assert that they can protect themselves. Not that they can mind you, as after the first few episodes any woman resembling an action girl ends up as serving no greater role than as a damsel in distress.
I could go on, but I've limited word count, so to homophobia. The show has one gay character, and he's effeminate sexual predator. He'll hit on anything with a penis, including children. In addition to this whenever he makes a sight pass at male they react with both fear and violence. In the episode he first appears in, Kamina threatens to kill him for it; twice. Bad enough as that is, it gets worse as Kamina is cast as the embodiment of manliness, effectively teaching young males everywhere that homosexual men are a threat to masculinity itself, and should be treated as such.
It is a shame, like BOAN, it's brilliance is defiled by the writer's own social ignorance and bigotry, causing this potentially revolutionary series becomes nothing more than regressive.