Disrespect to dead forum-goers as a bannable offense.

Vorpy

Back on this old YGO forum I used to go to one of our semi-moderator/deck builders on there recently passed away. His parents logged onto the IRC channel and notified us that in his will to let us know about it so we would know that he won't be coming back. One of the replies from another deck builder was "Good fucking riddance." while the Schadenfreude YT animation was posted as well, and an admin immediately permabanned the guy from the IRC channel, AND the forum. I can understand that most people did not like the guy because he was a bit of a metagame elitist when it came to deckbuilding, and that bugged some casual deckbuilders on that site.

For some reason though, I don't think that was worth a permanent ban, since the person was dead and it shouldn't count as a personal attack or flaming since....he's dead. Then somebody told me that you should respect the dead and it's very offensive to applause the death of a fellow forum-goer.

What are your stances on this IJBM? If somebody you disliked on this forum died, how would you react? If somebody you liked passed away on this forum and another person was "dancing on their grave" what would be the proper measures to take against them?

Bob

Honestly, if anyone here died and I found out about it, I'd be sad, regardless of how I felt about them, and I felt if someone did start grave dancing, I don't know if they should be banned for it (although I wouldn't be opposed to it), but fuck them.

Forzare

That... that is pretty horrible.

I think that permaban was definitely deserved.

Old Saturn

I don't think he should have been banned. Being disliked and thought of as an asshole is one thing though.

While I wouldn't like it if someone said "Good Fucking Riddance" if someone here made a thread saying how I was dead, I wouldn't care if the got banned or not....cause I'd be dead.

Forzare

" His parents logged onto the IRC channel and notified us that in his
will to let us know about it so we would know that he won't be coming
back. One of the replies from another deck builder was "Good fucking
riddance." while the Schadenfreude YT animation was posted as well"

Saying that to the dead person's parents is pretty fucking low.

GLORIOUSLeader

I'd rather have him stay but make the moderators keep "good fucking riddance" as his sig. 

^ Yes.

Myrmidon

It's not classy.

MillerCross

What Forzare said. 

glennmagusharvey

Yeah, there comes a point at which you can pretty conclusively say, "That was a dick move", and he kinda did that by saying what he said to the deceased person's parents.

Noimporta

Not only his parents, but all the people in the community who cared about him. Generally speaking, such a glaring display of lack of tact is a strong indication that a person is not capable of behaving properly in this said social environment. While I don't know if I'd applied a permaban had I been in their position, I wouldn't say it was a particularly harsh measure.

ninjaclown

There are just some things you don't do, and you should be prepared to face the consequences if you feel like doing it.

TheMightyAnonym

They permabanned him immediately?

Good fucking riddance.

Forzare

-bans TMA-

Bob

I don't think that counts as irony, but okay.

TheMightyAnonym

No, it counts.

Hm, although maybe it would only really count if I got banned for making that comment? But then wouldn't that be congruency instead?

I suppose it's somewhat iffy.

Central Avenue

Irony: One of those words that probably has a meaning, but no one can agree on just what it is.

TheMightyAnonym

No, I'm pretty sure it has a solid meaning. It just becomes disagreed upon when someone makes an un-ironic statement and claims it's irony, then defends that it actually is ironic by perverting the definition.

Sort of like I just did.

Vorpy

Hey my Nakama, I think Weeaboo is ironic, in a moe way.

Forzare

That statement was clearly a reconstruction of deconstructions.

Bob

Uh.

Uh?

Bastion

While I think the ban was justified, the angle of "his parents logged on because it was in his will" makes me think this may have just been trolling.

TheMightyAnonym

That was what I thought at first as well, although that poster's response was nasty enough for me to remove any care about the legitimacy of the tale.

Vorpy

I am pretty sure he's not trolling.

TuefelHundenIV

I wouldn't talk ill of the dead.  Unless they were total and complete bastard like Bin Laden or something.

Myrmidon

So am I allowed to say bad things about Scrye yet? Has time healed that wound?

Vorpy

That was off-topic, but....sure I guess, since Scrye doesn't go here, and isn't dead.

Nyarly

I wouldn't refrain from saying bad things about Scrye even if he was dead. Hell, I'd do it especially if he is dead.

But knowing myself, I probably wouldn't do so anyway.

Vorpy

right....

Nyarly

To be more serious and more on-topic: It's a very, very dickish thing to do, but I wouldn't say that it should be bannable. Or better said, it shouldn't be worth a perma-ban. I don't consider someone who makes light of another person's death a pleasant person, but a perma-ban would be a bit too much.

I'm not sure how I would react if a poster, I don't like, would die. The fact that he stops posting is rather pleasant, but when it comes with the death of this poster, I highly doubt that I'd be happy about it. Also, I probably would be a bit shocked, since it's not something I'd expect to happen.

So, my best guess is that I'd be rather neutral. I'm not so dickish to think "good riddance", but I'd be too distant to have any larger negative feelings.

ninjaclown

Perma-bans are justified. He knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyway.

randomtropeloser

I'd be pretty sad if any of you died, though I don't think I'd call for a perma-ban if someone actually said "good riddance," as cold as that is.  Then again, I really don't believe in perma-bans.