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People going "OOH A FREE UPDATE FROM VALVE FOR TF2, THOSE BASTARDS!"

DonZabuDonZabu
edited 2011-05-03 23:33:42 in General

That is, the people typing that to mock the people complaining about the updates, not the people complaining about the updates themselves.

I don't know all the details (if somebody could fill me in, that'd be great), but what difference does the update being free make if the content it brings sucks? It's like if a free WoW update added some new joke quests, but said joke quests were written by Carlos Mencia.

(If you don't know what I'm talking about, check the comments for this video: M5rFYrFqGus)

Comments

  • StormtroperStormtroper
    Are those updates mandatory?

    If so, that takes "you can't complain about free stuff" to a whole new level.
  • DYREDYRE
    Basically, a lot of people think it's stupid to complain about free things, because they think that you shouldn't have any expectation of a good product if you didn't pay for it... or something.

    In any case, it's really stupid to think that.
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    Looking through the update blog...it looks like it's mostly silly hats.

    That just seems inconsequential.

  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    edited 2011-05-03 23:33:41
    Poot dispenser here
    Well, at least they're still updating it, unlike CS:S which went without updates for months on end until the big Source Engine Update.

    If you don't like the Hats, then just play the stupid game. It's not like you have to trade for a hat before you're allowed to play a round of Payload. I think people took the Hats way too seriously in general.

    Plus, the waves of complaining about this aspect or that aspect get really tiring when quite a bit of the complaining boils down to "FUCK YOU VALVE, YOU RUINED TF2" or "Oh hey, an update to Hat Fortress 2!" If they can come up with proof or, you know, a good reason for why the whole Hats thing is as bad as they make it out to be (lack of LODs is a good one), then they get to complain. Thing is, those would be the kind of people who Valve would listen to and given the state of the game, either Valve really isn't listening or there aren't enough sound complaints.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Hey, hey.  Hats are serious business, man.
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    >If they can come up with proof

    Speaking of which, could you point me where you saw what you're talking about?

  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    I think if you really take it seriously enough, you can just find a group of players that agrees to play with the same settings that you like.
  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    edited 2011-05-03 23:46:39
    Poot dispenser here
    The LODs thing?

    This Wiki page. So many unoptimized models.

    The Valve listening thing?

    When Political Gamer interviewed Robin Walker at Valve, Walker stated that they prefer to react to customers, look for common threads of discussion and community-proposed solutions.

    The complaining itself?

    Shouldn't be that hard to look for.

    EDIT: ^Yeah, I play on Custom Server maps and servers run by the Steam Groups I'm part of.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    edited 2011-05-04 08:07:42
    Cue-bey
    I can't say whether all updates for TF2 have sucked, but I know they made me stop playing more than 6 months ago.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    :/

    I thought you stopped playing due to Minecraft.
  • ninjaclownninjaclown
    Don't know why people are bitching about a completely optional part of a game. To me, that's the ultimate embodiment of entitlement video gamers have these days.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    Cue-bey
    ^Unless you're on the 1/10th of nonshit servers, the updates and new weapons are not optional, either in the sense that other people will still use them, or that you'd have to be an idiot to use the fists over the KGB.
  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    Poot dispenser here
    ^That's why you strategize and learn how to counteract. If one thing doesn't work, try another. If a weapon is nerfed or buffed, then rethink your strategies.
  • ninjaclownninjaclown
    ^That's part of the whole fun of it. Strategy is part of the combat. Games that last long never stay exactly the same, or everything becomes stale and exploitable. Also, when I said completely optional I meant the hats.
  • DonZabuDonZabu

    >Don't know why people are bitching about a completely optional part of a game. To me, that's the ultimate embodiment of entitlement video gamers have these days.

    When you consider the inconvenience of downloading mandatory updates just for something that's functionally useless, it starts to seem more like Valve is wasting your time.

  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    Poot dispenser here
    Isn't there an option in Steam to not update automatically?

    Yes, there's an option in a game's Properties (right-click on an installed game in your Library) under the Updates tab to not automatically update said game. You will have to install it eventually to keep up-to-date, but if you don't have the luxury of being able to update every day, wait until you can by disabling auto-updating.
  • snowbullsnowbull
    edited 2011-05-04 20:39:07
    Cue-bey
    Actually, I think its the glut of shitty 32man/instarespawn/fakeplayercount/2fort/rtd/shitty map rotation/etc. servers that really made me quit. The updates and hats just gave me a more immediate reason.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Am I the only one who doesn't mind all the updates? >_>
  • RocketDudeRocketDude
    edited 2011-05-04 21:06:33
    Poot dispenser here
    ...Those servers can be filtered out by using tags and the ones that slip through can be Blacklisted outright. And the fake playercount ones can be deduced with "View Server Info."

    Really, just find a group/clan that runs public servers that are close enough, play some random ones that don't fit into those categories you mentioned and add them to favorites.

    Servers are practically a dime-a-dozen with TF2. Even Sturgeon's Law applies to them, that still leaves a large quantity of "good" servers.

    ^Me? Mind you, some updates seem small and insignificant, but some, like the Hatless Update, capture my interest.
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