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Getting banned
Major disclaimer: This isn't meant to be anything other than
kvetching. I'm not asking for anything, and I'm certainly not trying to
antagonize anyone, but I feel like it has to be said. If I do end up antagonizing someone, please contact me and I'll replace this with something less offensive. Unlike most reality TV stars, I would like to make friends here.
I've been banned from TV Tropes multiple times. Three times from the forum, twice from editing, and Google banned twice. This is a pretty extensive record, and anyone looking at it would probably conclude that I'd earned those bans.
I disagree. I'll explain.
The first time I was banned it was for a simple matter. I created a topic about furries, which was apparently verboten. I wasn't kvetching about furries in the typical drama-creating way, however; I was telling a story about how when I was at the Renaissance festival, furries in fursuits were everywhere, and how I felt that it broke the theme. Even though many furries were on the site, the overall feeling in the thread was that costumes should fit the theme of the festival. I say "was" because the topic was deleted and I was banned for twenty-four hours, all without notice, warning or explanation.
I theorized that the reason why I had been banned was that I had posted about furries, which are drama magnets, and I decided that I wouldn't post about them again. However, the next time I was banned because I (without the use of profanity, or even singling out any other troper) advocated the idea that Nazi fetishism and bestiality were morally questionable in a thread about that subject. I even mentioned that it was only my opinion, but that I had moral qualms about those fetishes. Apparently another troper felt differently, because once again I was banned without any notice, warning or explanation.
When the ban expired on the forums, I decided to cautiously post again. I posted in a few threads, going for a more neutral slant than I had before. Then, while trying to edit the wiki, I noticed that I'd been edit banned, and I went to the "Edit Banned - Would Like to Edit Again" topic to request to be unbanned. This was when I was banned for a third time. Although I was polite and used formal language, the person who banned me came into the thread, called me a "major rude jackhole" and permanently banned me from the site.
This left me more puzzled than before. After waiting for about a month, I decided to create an alternative account - "InkyQuills" - for the sole purpose of emailing the person who had banned me. He liked the letter and allowed me to post using the InkyQuills account. This was when I was edit banned for the second time; after I commented in a topic about domestic abuse saying that I couldn't stand to watch any media with scenes of rape or violence against women, I was stealthily edit banned for "misogyny," which even the mods I contacted couldn't figure out.
Nevertheless, after the last time I'd been banned I decided not to visit the left side of the wiki, so I continued to post. This was when I was banned for the final time; in a topic in which tropers talked about other tropers who scared them, I mentioned three tropers: one who had fantasies of murdering the people with whom he disagreed politically, one who had fantasies about killing the male gender via plague, and one who had fantasies of fictional characters coming to life and serving as their guardians. I was almost immediately Google banned.
I'll admit that this last time was completely justified; even though I didn't mention any tropers by name and all had left the site by the time I posted, the descriptions were enough, and if I'd taken five minutes to research the rules I'd have known that even talking negatively about tropers in a roundabout way was forbidden.
Still, even though this is never going to get me back on TV Tropes (and probably stands a good chance of getting me banned here, too) was I always in the wrong? It bugs me, because I never felt like I had a line of communication between me and the admin, where I could plead my case. And I feel like I could have contributed a lot more to the site, if I'd had the chance.
I've been banned from TV Tropes multiple times. Three times from the forum, twice from editing, and Google banned twice. This is a pretty extensive record, and anyone looking at it would probably conclude that I'd earned those bans.
I disagree. I'll explain.
The first time I was banned it was for a simple matter. I created a topic about furries, which was apparently verboten. I wasn't kvetching about furries in the typical drama-creating way, however; I was telling a story about how when I was at the Renaissance festival, furries in fursuits were everywhere, and how I felt that it broke the theme. Even though many furries were on the site, the overall feeling in the thread was that costumes should fit the theme of the festival. I say "was" because the topic was deleted and I was banned for twenty-four hours, all without notice, warning or explanation.
I theorized that the reason why I had been banned was that I had posted about furries, which are drama magnets, and I decided that I wouldn't post about them again. However, the next time I was banned because I (without the use of profanity, or even singling out any other troper) advocated the idea that Nazi fetishism and bestiality were morally questionable in a thread about that subject. I even mentioned that it was only my opinion, but that I had moral qualms about those fetishes. Apparently another troper felt differently, because once again I was banned without any notice, warning or explanation.
When the ban expired on the forums, I decided to cautiously post again. I posted in a few threads, going for a more neutral slant than I had before. Then, while trying to edit the wiki, I noticed that I'd been edit banned, and I went to the "Edit Banned - Would Like to Edit Again" topic to request to be unbanned. This was when I was banned for a third time. Although I was polite and used formal language, the person who banned me came into the thread, called me a "major rude jackhole" and permanently banned me from the site.
This left me more puzzled than before. After waiting for about a month, I decided to create an alternative account - "InkyQuills" - for the sole purpose of emailing the person who had banned me. He liked the letter and allowed me to post using the InkyQuills account. This was when I was edit banned for the second time; after I commented in a topic about domestic abuse saying that I couldn't stand to watch any media with scenes of rape or violence against women, I was stealthily edit banned for "misogyny," which even the mods I contacted couldn't figure out.
Nevertheless, after the last time I'd been banned I decided not to visit the left side of the wiki, so I continued to post. This was when I was banned for the final time; in a topic in which tropers talked about other tropers who scared them, I mentioned three tropers: one who had fantasies of murdering the people with whom he disagreed politically, one who had fantasies about killing the male gender via plague, and one who had fantasies of fictional characters coming to life and serving as their guardians. I was almost immediately Google banned.
I'll admit that this last time was completely justified; even though I didn't mention any tropers by name and all had left the site by the time I posted, the descriptions were enough, and if I'd taken five minutes to research the rules I'd have known that even talking negatively about tropers in a roundabout way was forbidden.
Still, even though this is never going to get me back on TV Tropes (and probably stands a good chance of getting me banned here, too) was I always in the wrong? It bugs me, because I never felt like I had a line of communication between me and the admin, where I could plead my case. And I feel like I could have contributed a lot more to the site, if I'd had the chance.
Comments
But yeah, it sounds like a few explanations would've gone a long way.
domestic abuse saying that I couldn't stand to watch any media with
scenes of rape or violence against women, I was stealthily edit banned
for "misogyny," which even the mods I contacted couldn't figure out. "
This is the point where you have to realize someone has it in for you. Nothing you say is safe.
I don't have records of the noteworthy threads, but here's where Eddie permabanned me the first time.
How the fuck are you so easily convinced that fantasy of that sort of murder is a sign they are ill?
Plus, I don't judge people by their fetishes, unless said fetishes harm other people in a way that threatens their lives (like bug chasers, or snuff fetishists).
Your banning seems similar to how Some Guy got banned.
This may not bring you any comfort but I've posting around various forums for over 10 years and I find if the admins or mods don't like any particular a poster just because they don't like him/her not because they're a problem poster. They'll find a way to ban them even if it means bending the rules a bit or making up some half-assed reason.
I don't think any of the TV Tropes mods are radfems.
"This guy again? Take a hint, dude."
It reminds me of a company I used to work for, when I was rated as "less effective" they gave me a test to stay on, a when I passed they said there'd been a mistake and gave me a second one. The reality is, I'm about 90% sure I'd made a manager look bad, and HR had been told to place me on the "look, just get rid of this guy" list. I suspect what happened to you might be FE doesn't look kindly to people who get reported a lot, even if none of the reportings are justified, it still makes more work, and I suspect FE doesn't enjoy being a forum mod, he wants to run the site, not deal with individuals.
I suspect he came to realize this himself when he got rid of IJBM I - He mentioned somewhere part of the reason he wanted IJBM gone was to avoid having to do a purge of users.
/gloating
/outanonyming
Beat that.
The only reliable rule is that there's someone who owns the server, and if he doesn't like your face, you'll get banned.
The nicer ones give temp bans, so you get a second chance to be obedient.
Edit: Now it's a regular can't-see ban.