dubcon/noncon

Ghilz

^ "Dubious Consent" ie: She doesn't say no, so it's not rape rightI  

Which is crap.

DYRE

Dubcon = "Dubious consent"

a.k.a. rape.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

Bob

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Ghilz

Personally Non-Con doesn't disturb me. I mean, whatever turns you on. I won't call someone who plays GTA a monster, coz it's all fictitious.

The Dubcon thing is just F***ed up. It almost feels like when you watch a kids TV show and they Bowdlerise "kill" to "destroy" or "Defeat"

I mean, it's rape. Call it for what it is. When you beat a hooker on the GTA is murder. When your porn story character f***s an unwilling person, that's rape.

Rottweiler

Aw man. I thought this would be about porn of people having consensual sex while dubbing.

Ghilz

people having consensual sex while dubbing

Can you have noncon sex while dubbing? Must do good for the quality of the dub.

Beholderess

Well, this one can understand the reason for different tags for "noncon" and "rape".

Of course, in real life it would be the same, but when it comes to reading preference, it indicates slightly different things. Namely, in noncon the victim often turnd out to be enjoying it, not unlike in a "bodice ripper" sort of trashy romance, while in a fic with "rape" tag consequences for the fictim are much more dire, and handled ina more serious manner.

Again, zero difference in real life - It'sNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt is a discredited trope for a reason - but there is nothing strange with liking to read only one of these types but not the other.

Now, dubcon is something this one absolutely fails to understand.

Vorpy

Stockholm syndrome I guess?

"Hey if I rape this girl long enough she will stop screaming, which mean she totally likes it and wants more!"

"Bodily functions she's making totally indicates this girl is enjoying this, even though she says she doesn't want to!"

"Heheheh, I am making her armpits reek of dickcheese..."

"Hey I'll never see her again so this is totally okay!"

"It's not the girl who matters, it's the holes that do!"

"Hey, it's either this or I kill you, I am being reasonable, honey!"

"You say you don't like it but the noises you are making sound like moans, which means you do!"

"A real rape victim would not just sit there and take it, they would try to escape."

Chagen

I assumed that dubcon is when the girl wanted to have sex....but not at that exact time.

So yeah, it's rape.

Elbeem

I entered this thread thinking it was going to be about even more subgenres of Electronic music that I hadn't previously heard of.

Ghilz

Rape-based Electronic music?

GLORIOUSLeader

I thought of rape the first time I heard it. 

Elbeem

^^ Well it is objectively the best kind...