When supremacy groups claim the Holocaust didn't happen...

BaronGrackle

...don't they still think that it should have happened? I'm serious here. If you believe that the white race is the only section of humanity that isn't just a step away from dumb monkeys, then shouldn't you be celebrating something like the Holocaust? To my mind, it'd be like a KKK member denying that slavery ever happened, or that it was an important part of the Southern economy.

What's the point of denying something you'd approve of? Silly supremacist dorks.

GLORIOUSLeader

Oh hai there.

Basically, it's a PR thing. They can claim that it didn't happen in public, then gather in their scared little corners of the Internet and eat their cans of spam around a theoretical fire of namecalling and racism/xenophobia. 

Alternatively, they want less people to feel sorry for them. For example, the Holocaust was one of the main reasons the state of Israel was formed. If the Holocaust never happened, then Stormfronters (in their infinite wisdom) can claim that Israel has no right to exist. 

Nyarly

"[IJBM:] Supremacy groups"

Fixed.

BaronGrackle

I think you're right, which is all the more hilarious because I doubt many of them would be super excited to see Arab-Muslim influence grow in that region of the world. Sure, Hitler didn't have any problem with Arabs or Japanese. But these Neo groups are much more... dare I say "consistent"? In their blind hatred.

I assume they hate Arabs and Muslims, anyway. I wonder what their ideal Middle Eastern plan would be.

Icalasari

^ White. White as far as the eye can see

So much white that the sun reflects off and forms a laser so they can also destroy and replace any aliens out there as well

GLORIOUSLeader

Plus, all the heat refraction could stop global warming!

inkblot

Denying the Holocaust helps their agenda more than agreeing with it.

There's also the more moderate people who think Israel has no right to exist, but don't actually want to kill all the Jews.

Icalasari

And then there are the batshit crazy ones wh-Wait, right, supremists. Already covered

BaronGrackle

^^ Sure, certainly. But those don't tend to be the Holocaust deniers, so their logic/rationale doesn't bug me. :-)

glennmagusharvey

Of course Israel never had a right to exist.  No country ever had a right to exist.  Not the United States, not Russia, not China, not Taiwan, not East Timor, not the United Kingdom, not Western Sahara, not Vatican City, not Germany, not Poland, not Bangladesh, not Pakistan, not Sealand.  No one.

There exists no right to exist.  There also exists no right to deny existence.

They just happen to exist.  Deal with it.

ninjaclown

I hate it when people use the right to exist excuse. The NEED to exist, sure, but no one is truly entitled to anything on this planet.

DonZabu

The question isn't "whether or not it has the right to exist", it's "whether or not forcing Palestinians off their land was a good thing".

glennmagusharvey

it was probably a bad idea, but two wrongs do not make a right.

BaronGrackle

^^ From Wikipedia. Let me know if it's being disingenuous:

"In 1947, the British government withdrew from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states—one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city—a corpus separatum—administered by the UN.

The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it. On December 1, 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets. Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but they gradually moved onto the offensive. The Palestinian Arab economy collapsed and 250,000 Palestinian-Arabs fled or were expelled.

On May 14, 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, the Jewish Agency proclaimed independence, naming the country Israel. The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq—attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Saudi Arabia sent a military contingent to operate under Egyptian command; Yemen declared war but did not take military action. After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. About 700,000 Palestinian refugees were expelled or fled the country during the conflict.

In the early years of the state, the Labor Zionist movement led by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion dominated Israeli politics. These years were marked by an influx of Holocaust survivors and Jews from Arab lands, many of whom faced persecution in and expulsion from their original countries.

Yeah. All things considered, it's not exactly one-sided bullying...and I don't particularly mind having one nation in that part of the world that isn't an Islamic fundamentalist state. :-)