Excessive dislike AND excessive liking of Jews/Judaism/Israel, and middle eastern politics

glennmagusharvey

One side needs to stop hating on Jewish people, Judaism, and Israel all the damn time.  Old and stupid stereotype is old and stupid, and Hitler was a fucktarded douchebag.  Jews are people just like you are, and they have cultural traditions just like you do.  Also, the founding of Israel may have been a gloriously stupid idea many decades ago, but it's here to stay, and you are not going to change that short of someone nuking the entire region and taking you with it.  GET OVER IT, AND START DOING SOMETHING MORE USEFUL WITH YOUR LIFE.

The other side needs to stop being so damn defensive about Judaism and Israel, and admit that Israel is a country run by humans who are, like all other humans, not perfect, and thus is capable of foreign policy idiocy.  Also, not every Palestinian is a asshole toward Israel and not every Israeli is a asshole toward Palestine: the real problem is the existence of assholes among those with political power, so STOP ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BE CRUSHED INTO THE GROUND FOR YOU TO SIT AT HOME AND ENJOY YOUR DINNER OR SOMETHING.

Also, the dang Middle East is a site of the world's cultural heritage.  Not just Christian, not just Jewish, not just Islamic, but the entire world's cultural heritage.  STOP CLAIMING IT AS YOUR OWN.  THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE.  EVERY ONE OF YOU FUCKERS WHO CLAIM THAT YOUR RELIGION OR CULTURE OR ETHNIC GROUP HAS A RIGHT TO THE DAMN PLACE.

Vorpy

_reserved for mature response_

GLORIOUSLeader

Israel should exist, IMO, as a regular Middle Eastern nation, with Old Jerusalem being a UN-run city-state for all the Abrahamic religions.   

Of course, even if this does not happen, I support the existence of Israel, if not its execution per se. 

Myrmidon

http://www.lacan.com/badword.htm

Relevant article which most of you will avoid like the plague, and some of you will make abortive attempts to read.

glennmagusharvey

> Today it is evident that a strong intellectual current, featuring bestselling publications and considerable media impact, indeed maintains that the fate of the word "Jew" lies in its communitarian transcendence, in such a way that this destiny cannot be rendered commensurable with those of other names that, within the registers of ideology, or of politics, or even of philosophy, have been subject to conflicting assessments.

> communitarian
> transcendence
> commensurable
> registers of ideology, or of politics, or even of philosophy

Translation of entire article plz.

Myrmidon

It means you're not allowed to criticize Jews in polite society, in the way that you might criticize Fundamentalist Christians.

Myrmidon

Because that would involve effort.

Ponicalica

funnyguts: Continental philosophers tend not to value clear writing.